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Subject: Re: [AE] Non cloud backup solutions for solo freelancers?
From: Brian Higgins <brian.higgins@flavor.tv>
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:13:25 -0600
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We archived our flame jobs to hard drives for a few years. It worked great f=
or a while, but eventually we had 2 drives go bad. If you leave therm unpowe=
red long enough the heads can stick to the platters.  I think the data recov=
ery cost about $15K.  We use LTO now.  The cost may not be that different, b=
ut at least it's a media meant for archival use.=20

$.02,
Brian

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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com> wrote:
>=20
> seriously.... $100 1tb USB hard drive. next question... maybe get a 3.0 ad=
apter for faster access. ok power it up often enough. I've had drives sit fo=
r quite a while and work fine. I use ChronoSync to match up local storage to=
 back up drives rather painlessly. Time Machine can also work ok for some pr=
ojects.
>=20
> there is nothing economical about LTO despite claims when you compare eith=
er bare drives + eSATA dock or simple USB3 external drives.
>=20
> don't every think of optical media as stable, not the recordable kind. I h=
ad over 100 DVD-R's go bad due to very low light level exposure. Bad batch..=
. thankfully what I lost doesn't matter and I had backups on... hard drives !=

>=20
> S
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>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards thoug=
h if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured they would=
 have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this would definitely h=
ave to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays are cheap enough to tos=
s out as a value added thing which is why I like to use them.
>>=20
>>   -Rob
>>=20
>>> On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
>>> IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO.
>>>=20
>>> Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card.
>>>=20
>>> A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back abo=
ut $2000 and up.  Mostly up.
>>>=20
>>> The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as an=
ybody on a network can access it.
>>>=20
>>> Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive.
>>>=20
>>> LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most expensive. =
 LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me.
>>>=20
>>> You may not need massive storage like I do.  I do editing as well as GFX=
, and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours of footag=
e) that comes in on flash and rugged drives.
>>>=20
>>>=20
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>>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote=
:
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>>>> Hi all,
>>>>=20
>>>>   I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have dropped b=
elow $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external NAS for live ba=
ckups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project I'm working on is b=
eginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering are there any other co=
st effective backup methods out there? I've heard backing up to hard drives i=
s an option but I've also heard they can become unreliable after being dorma=
nt for a while. I'm hesitant to use the cloud merely because of the huge fil=
e transfers on Comcast's internet access where they hit you with a 250GB usa=
ge limit.
>>>>=20
>>>>   -Robert
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