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We archived our flame jobs to hard drives for a few years. It worked great for a while, but eventually we had 2 drives go bad. If you leave therm unpowered long enough the heads can stick to the platters. I think the data recovery cost about $15K. We use LTO now. The cost may not be that different, but at least it's a media meant for archival use.
$.02,
Brian
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com> wrote:
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> seriously.... $100 1tb USB hard drive. next question... maybe get a 3.0 adapter for faster access. ok power it up often enough. I've had drives sit for quite a while and work fine. I use ChronoSync to match up local storage to back up drives rather painlessly. Time Machine can also work ok for some projects.
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> there is nothing economical about LTO despite claims when you compare either bare drives + eSATA dock or simple USB3 external drives.
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> don't every think of optical media as stable, not the recordable kind. I had over 100 DVD-R's go bad due to very low light level exposure. Bad batch... thankfully what I lost doesn't matter and I had backups on... hard drives !
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> S
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>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards though if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured they would have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this would definitely have to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays are cheap enough to toss out as a value added thing which is why I like to use them.
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>> -Rob
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>>> On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
>>> IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO.
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>>> Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card.
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>>> A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back about $2000 and up. Mostly up.
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>>> The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as anybody on a network can access it.
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>>> Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive.
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>>> LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most expensive. LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me.
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>>> You may not need massive storage like I do. I do editing as well as GFX, and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours of footage) that comes in on flash and rugged drives.
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>>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hi all,
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>>>> I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have dropped below $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external NAS for live backups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project I'm working on is beginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering are there any other cost effective backup methods out there? I've heard backing up to hard drives is an option but I've also heard they can become unreliable after being dormant for a while. I'm hesitant to use the cloud merely because of the huge file transfers on Comcast's internet access where they hit you with a 250GB usage limit.
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>>>> -Robert
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