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Subject: Re: [AE] Sound in Premiere
From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:58:44 -0600
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The audio in Pr is pretty good.  Because it has submix tracks, that puts =
it ahead of Avid and FCP.

I don't think the native plugs are horrible, but I mostly use a =
third-party compressor / limiter.=20

Adobe needs to offer more options for buffer size.  It tops out at 1024, =
and that's too low when you have a stack of CPU intensive plug-ins =
running.  It makes the audio sound choppy as you play in real time.  A =
buffer max of 4096 would help things.

I found a couple of very useful plugs for fixing poorly recorded audio, =
the bane of low-budget video production, and documentary work.  One does =
de-reverberation (You often get unwanted room reverb when the mic is too =
far from the subject.), and the other reduces comb-filtering (a side =
effect of recording in rooms with parallel walls).  Both are CPU hogs, =
and with the low buffer, Pr can't handle more than one instance of each =
plug without choking.

I'd like to stay in Pr to do my audio work, and I do for 99% of my =
projects, because I mostly deal with pros who give me good audio that =
doesn't need a lot of first aid.  But not everybody is so lucky.


On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> =
wrote:

>> Audio in Premiere is quite different from Audio in Avid, FCP or =
Vegas. Once you understand how it works, however, its audio capabilities =
are very powerful and deep.
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> I too would be interested in this. I'm a longtime Vegas user - which =
started as a multi-track audio program - and find the audio in FCP, =
Premiere, Avid sorely lacking. Working some projects in Premiere would =
be nice but immediately run into things that don't seem easy or possible =
in Premiere. Plus, the audio interface especially plugins seem of low =
quality. Vegas has a seemingly simple approach that is actually very =
powerful (and does this for video) now of event, track and media FX, =
nested/grouped tracks with nice submix routing that makes managing =
complex audio a breeze.
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> It looks from material online and via Adobe this is not possible in =
Premiere - which does not have track FX for video either, really =
unfortunate. But I keep hoping I'm missing something on the audio side =
as it's the reason I only occasionally use Premiere.
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> stephen van vuuren
> 336.202.4777
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> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
> http://www.sv2dcp.com/
> http://www.sv2studios.com/
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> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It =
should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind =
the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
> -Stanley Kubrick
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> Subject: Re: [AE] Sound in Premiere
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> Audio in Premiere is quite different from Audio in Avid, FCP or Vegas. =
Once you understand how it works, however, its audio capabilities are =
very powerful and deep.=20
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> Stay tuned to http://premierepro.net. I'm finishing a 70-page chapter =
on Audio in Premiere Pro right now - I just need to add more image =
captions. It should be available in a couple of days. :-)
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