Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5291370 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:57:57 +0100 Received: from mbp-17.westell.com (50-55-16-4.waus.wi.frontiernet.net [50.55.16.4]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MXajW-1WEGr61mRq-00WvQf; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:59:55 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Sound in Premiere From: Steve Oakley In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:59:55 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:0Kx21p8ENaDu433J9hNe+bcMNk4CF0dYtypsZs0xSNo YBpOWAqA5IJ/cpODUhmU0nMuF2hCmEXhQwJXkhwi6mOX4Rmmzz e8a2Nv8A+kyBdHYEnrYcpHCekaGnAauEULSb/bAEp9bodFEe7E KjpK4+pHuM9CfwlK4qAkHOjxA6OHrQRf9GgNnLMoXza30RMfsF QCgDqVH9qAjRKUe3Og9gPqf57+mKuracNHcavBAkABDAr3+8uk HULujf2l6ke4qMGBmMs1FQM+ZgbMfbHuICa9eWlfo91EjZYNd3 4JP0GWdgG9rj93JFxI2SanJbA5KpbbnpaBbrb0npeqPLO8M0dd oUayebcyN9LeM1KIhrzVyT6zdCeqdRFLgtM3mlhlGi2M3sAxl2 gllFsLw47N6QQ== On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: >> Audio in Premiere is quite different from Audio in Avid, FCP or = Vegas. Once you understand how it works, however, its audio capabilities = are very powerful and deep. >=20 > I too would be interested in this. I'm a longtime Vegas user - which = started as a multi-track audio program - and find the audio in FCP, = Premiere, Avid sorely lacking. Working some projects in Premiere would = be nice but immediately run into things that don't seem easy or possible = in Premiere. Plus, the audio interface especially plugins seem of low = quality. Vegas has a seemingly simple approach that is actually very = powerful (and does this for video) now of event, track and media FX, = nested/grouped tracks with nice submix routing that makes managing = complex audio a breeze. >=20 > It looks from material online and via Adobe this is not possible in = Premiere - which does not have track FX for video either, really = unfortunate. But I keep hoping I'm missing something on the audio side = as it's the reason I only occasionally use Premiere. PP certainly has track fx which are key frameable as well as clip based = ones. as for video track FX you can do that by creating a new clear = video clip aka adjustment layer clip and place that in the TL as = appropriate.=20 PP on the audio side can submix. it can edit audio down to the sample = level - trim, slip, slide, keyframe directly in the TL. the secret ? = well keyframes are already subframe if you zoom in enough. simply change = the TL units to Samples in the ( I hate so much ) TL fly out menu in the = top right. PP uses VST for plugins and also supports apple AU as well. = processing is all 32bit internally. So really this is as good as any = DAWware out there and better than FCP by a margin. fact is I'm working on a TV series right now and I'm mixing the show for = broadcast right in PP where its been edited. I'm happy to be doing this. = everything is taking some compression / eq / gain and its been working = really well. the denoise is also a nice clean up filter when used gently = to get rid of some wind noise and clothing rubs. S