From: Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
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Subject: RE: [AE] Sound in Premiere
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:11:54 +0000
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> PP certainly has track fx which are key frameable as well as clip based o=
nes. as for video track FX you can do that by creating a new clear video cl=
ip aka adjustment layer clip and place that in the TL as appropriate.

I saw that but that's not even a poor workaround for video track FX - I don=
't want to effect tracks below - just one track e.g. setting all tracks wit=
h Camera A to Camera A LUT. Plus Vegas has media FX (FX applies automatical=
ly to all instances of a media  file in a project. Great for NR or any othe=
r type of a global fix. And on side does have track FX but not media FX or =
track nesting and grouping. If only Audition were rolled into it - which is=
 basically how Vegas works.

> PP uses VST for plugins and also supports apple AU as well. processing is=
 all 32bit internally. So really this is as good as any DAWware out there a=
nd better than FCP by a margin.

I agree - that's why I'm considering Premiere because most of my VST stuff =
appears to work - except all the great Sony plugs I have.

> fact is I'm working on a TV series right now and I'm mixing the show for =
broadcast right in PP where it's been edited.

Surround or stereo? Most of my complex sound mixes are surround with tons o=
f tracks and submixes. Good to know it's working for those types of project=
s.

stephen van vuuren
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the meaning, all that comes later.
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-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of=
 Steve Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:00 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Sound in Premiere


On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wr=
ote:

>> Audio in Premiere is quite different from Audio in Avid, FCP or Vegas. O=
nce you understand how it works, however, its audio capabilities are very p=
owerful and deep.
>=20
> I too would be interested in this. I'm a longtime Vegas user - which star=
ted as a multi-track audio program - and find the audio in FCP, Premiere, A=
vid sorely lacking. Working some projects in Premiere would be nice but imm=
ediately run into things that don't seem easy or possible in Premiere. Plus=
, the audio interface especially plugins seem of low quality. Vegas has a s=
eemingly simple approach that is actually very powerful (and does this for =
video) now of event, track and media FX, nested/grouped tracks with nice su=
bmix routing that makes managing complex audio a breeze.
>=20
> It looks from material online and via Adobe this is not possible in Premi=
ere - which does not have track FX for video either, really unfortunate. Bu=
t I keep hoping I'm missing something on the audio side as it's the reason =
I only occasionally use Premiere.

PP certainly has track fx which are key frameable as well as clip based one=
s. as for video track FX you can do that by creating a new clear video clip=
 aka adjustment layer clip and place that in the TL as appropriate.=20

PP on the audio side can submix. it can edit audio down to the sample level=
 - trim, slip, slide, keyframe directly in the TL. the secret ? well keyfra=
mes are already subframe if you zoom in enough. simply change the TL units =
to Samples in the ( I hate so much ) TL fly out menu in the top right. PP u=
ses VST for plugins and also supports apple AU as well. processing is all 3=
2bit internally. So really this is as good as any DAWware out there and bet=
ter than FCP by a margin.

fact is I'm working on a TV series right now and I'm mixing the show for br=
oadcast right in PP where its been edited. I'm happy to be doing this. ever=
ything is taking some compression / eq / gain and its been working really w=
ell. the denoise is also a nice clean up filter when used gently to get rid=
 of some wind noise and clothing rubs.

S


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