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> PP certainly has track fx which are key frameable as well as clip based ones. as for video track FX you can do that by creating a new clear video clip aka adjustment layer clip and place that in the TL as appropriate.
I saw that but that's not even a poor workaround for video track FX - I don't want to effect tracks below - just one track e.g. setting all tracks with Camera A to Camera A LUT. Plus Vegas has media FX (FX applies automatically to all instances of a media file in a project. Great for NR or any other type of a global fix. And on side does have track FX but not media FX or track nesting and grouping. If only Audition were rolled into it - which is basically how Vegas works.
> PP uses VST for plugins and also supports apple AU as well. processing is all 32bit internally. So really this is as good as any DAWware out there and better than FCP by a margin.
I agree - that's why I'm considering Premiere because most of my VST stuff appears to work - except all the great Sony plugs I have.
> fact is I'm working on a TV series right now and I'm mixing the show for broadcast right in PP where it's been edited.
Surround or stereo? Most of my complex sound mixes are surround with tons of tracks and submixes. Good to know it's working for those types of projects.
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From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Steve Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [AE] Sound in Premiere
On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:
>> Audio in Premiere is quite different from Audio in Avid, FCP or Vegas. Once you understand how it works, however, its audio capabilities are very powerful and deep.
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> I too would be interested in this. I'm a longtime Vegas user - which started as a multi-track audio program - and find the audio in FCP, Premiere, Avid sorely lacking. Working some projects in Premiere would be nice but immediately run into things that don't seem easy or possible in Premiere. Plus, the audio interface especially plugins seem of low quality. Vegas has a seemingly simple approach that is actually very powerful (and does this for video) now of event, track and media FX, nested/grouped tracks with nice submix routing that makes managing complex audio a breeze.
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> It looks from material online and via Adobe this is not possible in Premiere - which does not have track FX for video either, really unfortunate. But I keep hoping I'm missing something on the audio side as it's the reason I only occasionally use Premiere.
PP certainly has track fx which are key frameable as well as clip based ones. as for video track FX you can do that by creating a new clear video clip aka adjustment layer clip and place that in the TL as appropriate.
PP on the audio side can submix. it can edit audio down to the sample level - trim, slip, slide, keyframe directly in the TL. the secret ? well keyframes are already subframe if you zoom in enough. simply change the TL units to Samples in the ( I hate so much ) TL fly out menu in the top right. PP uses VST for plugins and also supports apple AU as well. processing is all 32bit internally. So really this is as good as any DAWware out there and better than FCP by a margin.
fact is I'm working on a TV series right now and I'm mixing the show for broadcast right in PP where its been edited. I'm happy to be doing this. everything is taking some compression / eq / gain and its been working really well. the denoise is also a nice clean up filter when used gently to get rid of some wind noise and clothing rubs.
S
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