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NSfT.wsF7kblc8pMOK7qgyMBEhpMMcsd7S19IVBuUztZHUS4MV1C7CQsBSsJ VFTQG Received: from [99.181.59.25] by web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:32:22 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,WWVhaCwgYnV0Li4uDQoNCkFyZSB5b3Ugd2lsbGluZyB0byBnbyB0aGUgZXh0cmEgbWlsZSBhbmQgcG9zdCBoaS1yZXMgcGljdHVyZXMgb2YgeW91cnNlbHZlcywgdG8gc2VlIGlmIEFmdGVyIEVmZmVjdHMgY2FuIGNyZWF0ZSBhIGVtdWxhdGUgdGhlIFZhbiBEYW1tZSBWb2x2byB0cnVjayBzcGxpdHM_DQoNClJpY2gNClBTLiByZWFkaW5nIGUtbWFpbCB3aGlsZSB3YXRjaGluZyBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9RU1scGlleTIwYjgNCg0KDQoNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/370 YahooMailWebService/0.8.166.601 Message-ID: <1384968742.24578.YahooMailBasic@web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:32:22 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Young Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, but... Are you willing to go the extra mile and post hi-res pictures of yourselves= , to see if After Effects can create a emulate the Van Damme Volvo truck sp= lits? Rich PS. reading e-mail while watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEMlpiey2= 0b8 -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/20/13, Todd Kopriva wrote: Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC To: "After Effects Mail List" Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2013, 9:25 AM =20 Thank you very much for the kind words. =20 I don't intend to deflate the praise, but: 1) I am just doing my job, and 2) I do my job the way that I do it because my boss, my peers, and my predecessors have established that this is simply the way that we do things on the After Effects team. Thank Dave Simons and Dan Wilk if you're looking for the root cause of us talking with you as part of us making software. =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of > Jim Curtis > Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:51 > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC >=20 > Seconded. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dann Stubbs > wrote: >=20 > > hey todd, > > > > i know i often can be quite critical of things adobe does (and other > companies too), but i just want to point out that your presence and > contributions to the AE app, list, and user community are very appreciated by > me (and i am sure many unspoken others) > > > > lately, i've just been watching how you handle yourself and these > situations - even with this naming issue, kind of a relatively small issue; and > it's completely logical why the change was made to the current method - but > the fact that it does affect even one user it matters to you and to find the > best resolution and being open and receptive to the "gift of user feedback" > rather then the all too typical "cone of silence" and "we know best" attitude > by software companies. > > > > it helps immensely when users are under pressure to know that their > concerns, problems or issues are being heard - even if it does not result in an > immediate solution - just the fact that you are here listening to us users, > listening to our ideas, hearing bugs, offering suggestions, providing > information or workarounds, as well as pushing these issues and suggestions > back to the development teams to make the product better in a timely > manner, there are many other software companies that could use what you > do as a role model. > > > > i just wanted to make a mention of it and say thank you, as i'm sure often a > position like yours can be difficult as you probably get push back from both > sides (app dev and users) and that could easily make your efforts feel > unappreciated. > > > > but your efforts are appreciated, so thank you. > > > > dann > > > __________________________________________________________ > _________ > > > > Dann Stubbs=A0 -=A0 dann@darkskydigital.com > > Dark Sky Digital -=A0 http://www.darkskydigital.com > > > > http://www.RenderKing.com=A0 Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm > > > __________________________________________________________ > _________ > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > > >> We're looking into how best to fix this for our next update. > >> > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to =20 +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to