Return-Path: Received: from exprod6og108.obsmtp.com ([64.18.1.21] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5292731 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:00:56 +0100 Received: from outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com ([193.104.215.16]) by exprod6ob108.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUo0jfzpZcQFhG409oipqv+/j6Mh6Q/Z3@postini.com; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:02:58 PST Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (inner-relay-1.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id rAKL2spT013491 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nahub01.corp.adobe.com (nahub01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.97]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id rAKL2r6A005454 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nambx09.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.47]) by nahub01.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.97]) with mapi; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:02:53 -0800 From: Todd Kopriva To: After Effects Mail List Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:02:52 -0800 Subject: RE: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC Thread-Topic: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC Thread-Index: Ac7mLpj+ZbQioxuzSC+Mss6mNZlv/wABQhYw Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Done. > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf = Of Dann Stubbs >=20 > well then please pass along my thanks to your team mates, dave and dan to= o. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: >=20 > > Thank you very much for the kind words. > > > > I don't intend to deflate the praise, but: 1) I am just doing my job, a= nd 2) I > do my job the way that I do it because my boss, my peers, and my > predecessors have established that this is simply the way that we do thin= gs > on the After Effects team. Thank Dave Simons and Dan Wilk if you're looki= ng > for the root cause of us talking with you as part of us making software. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Beha= lf Of Jim Curtis > >> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:51 > >> To: After Effects Mail List > >> Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC > >> > >> Seconded. > >> > >> > >> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dann Stubbs > >> wrote: > >> > >>> hey todd, > >>> > >>> i know i often can be quite critical of things adobe does (and other > >> companies too), but i just want to point out that your presence and > >> contributions to the AE app, list, and user community are very appreci= ated by > >> me (and i am sure many unspoken others) > >>> > >>> lately, i've just been watching how you handle yourself and these > >> situations - even with this naming issue, kind of a relatively small i= ssue; and > >> it's completely logical why the change was made to the current method = - but > >> the fact that it does affect even one user it matters to you and to fi= nd the > >> best resolution and being open and receptive to the "gift of user feed= back" > >> rather then the all too typical "cone of silence" and "we know best" a= ttitude > >> by software companies. > >>> > >>> it helps immensely when users are under pressure to know that their > >> concerns, problems or issues are being heard - even if it does not res= ult in an > >> immediate solution - just the fact that you are here listening to us u= sers, > >> listening to our ideas, hearing bugs, offering suggestions, providing > >> information or workarounds, as well as pushing these issues and sugges= tions > >> back to the development teams to make the product better in a timely > >> manner, there are many other software companies that could use what yo= u > >> do as a role model. > >>> > >>> i just wanted to make a mention of it and say thank you, as i'm sure = often a > >> position like yours can be difficult as you probably get push back fro= m both > >> sides (app dev and users) and that could easily make your efforts feel > >> unappreciated. > >>> > >>> but your efforts are appreciated, so thank you. > >>> > >>> dann > >>>