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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:33:12 -0500
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I just ran the Mac installer when it came up and there was no shovelware =
included; it=92s only a Windows issue apparently.

> On windows
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> =20
> Jeanette Barekman
> From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
> To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AE] Flash Rant
>=20
> I don't recall seeing this.  I presume this is on Windows?  Or, Mac, =
too?
>=20
>=20
> On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:55 PM, jsbarekman@yahoo.com wrote:
>=20
>> There is a box to uncheck on the download page.
>> I learned after I had to do an uninstall on The McAfee.
>>=20
>> =20
>> Jeanette Barekman
>> From: Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
>> To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>=20
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AE] Flash Rant
>>=20
>> Java (Sun) does the same thing and actually numerous other apps. I =
agree, it=92s a sucky practice.
>> =20
>> stephen van vuuren
>> 336.202.4777
>> =20
>> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
>> http://www.sv2dcp.com/
>> http://www.sv2studios.com/
>> =20
>> A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It =
should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s =
behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
>> =96Stanley Kubrick
>> =20
>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On =
Behalf Of brian@totaltraining.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:20 PM
>> To: After Effects Mail List
>> Subject: [AE] Flash Rant
>> =20
>> I know this isn't an AE post but I don't subscribe to any Flash =
lists.
>> =20
>> So, the latest Flashupdate installed MacAfee Scan Plus (or some =
such), and I did not even notice an option to opt out. This is bad =
practice, Adobe (waggles finger).
>> =20
>> Brian


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I =
just ran the Mac installer when it came up and there was no shovelware =
included; it=92s only a Windows issue apparently.<br><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; =
font-size: 14pt;">On =
windows<br><div><span><br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(255, 127, 0); font-style: italic;">Jeanette =
Barekman</span><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'lucida console', =
sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: 'times new =
roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr =
size=3D"1"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">From:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Jim Curtis &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jpcurtis@me.com">jpcurtis@me.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>After Effects Mail List =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv">AE-List@media-motion.tv</a>&gt;<sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, November 20, =
2013 6:33 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [AE] Flash =
Rant<br></font></div><div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div =
id=3D"yiv1613261349">I don't recall seeing this. &nbsp;I presume this is =
on Windows? &nbsp;Or, Mac, too?<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov =
20, 2013, at 6:55 PM,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a=
 rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jsbarekman@yahoo.com" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jsbarekman@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: =
underline;">jsbarekman@yahoo.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"yiv1613261349Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">There is a =
box to uncheck on the download page.<br>I learned after I had to do an =
uninstall on The =
McAfee.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(255, 127, 0); font-style: italic;">Jeanette =
Barekman</span><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'lucida console', =
sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: 'times new =
roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr =
size=3D"1"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">From:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Stephen van Vuuren &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:stephen@sv2studios.com" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:stephen@sv2studios.com" style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: =
underline;">stephen@sv2studios.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>After Effects Mail List =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: =
underline;">AE-List@media-motion.tv</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, November 20, =
2013 3:09 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [AE] Flash =
Rant<br></font></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349y_msg_container"><br><div =
id=3D"yiv1613261349"><div class=3D"yiv1613261349WordSection1"><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Java (Sun) does the =
same thing and actually numerous other apps. I agree, it=92s a sucky =
practice.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">stephen van vuuren</span></b></div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">336.202.4777</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></b></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.insaturnsrings.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"color: =
blue;">http://www.insaturnsrings.com/</span></a></span></b><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(112, 48, =
160);"></span></b></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.sv2dcp.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); =
text-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"color: =
blue;">http://www.sv2dcp.com/</span></a></span></b></div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(112, 48, 160);"><a rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.sv2studios.com/" style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(112, 48, =
160);">http://www.sv2studios.com/</span></a></span></b></div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">&nbsp;</span></b></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><i><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like =
fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, =
what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes =
later.</span></i></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">=96<b>Stanley Kubrick</b></span></div></div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div style=3D"border-style: solid none =
none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>After Effects Mail List =
[mailto:AE-<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:List@media-motion.tv" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:List@media-motion.tv" style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: =
underline;">List@media-motion.tv</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b><a rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:brian@totaltraining.com" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:brian@totaltraining.com" style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: =
underline;">brian@totaltraining.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, November 20, =
2013 3:20 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>After Effects Mail =
List<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[AE] Flash =
Rant</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;">&nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;"><span>I know this isn't an AE post but I don't =
subscribe to any Flash lists.</span></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;"><span>&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span>So, the =
latest Flashupdate installed MacAfee Scan Plus (or some such), and I did =
not even notice an option to opt out. This is bad practice, Adobe =
(waggles finger).</span></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;"><span>&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"yiv1613261349MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;"><span>Brian</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>=
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