Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com ([209.85.217.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5293688 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:13:57 +0100 Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c11so26299lbj.37 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:16:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ueTLA31KYB/7KyGHLdS4AufHqAWn4aoqMUX/oKcp+OM=; b=Z07/rqw8YMtUImsG6NMF6BdZDltSBy49s2ghDCRJtPZzgIaO/bkvWFcEMzxqyR37iE tji0zjCkT0vmcWhhrCCOBDgZSw2m8mFfEM0nuXw0dtqAFiylLcpRMZC6QGqbuDEERT1j Wv7rrY2RbMfkf9Lx/F6afwps70qDvnZOCZk0KbvqoGLFzTeoaXcE6FwXc9GETJrWt29K I85wDSAPt2X/Sy6qtbXIOUqIiHcQsPxdRPaV6jc448P74Kg5wwTVI62rMKjiBTTCT3eE //u4PjyHzIC10f5ivJ5PrqHgYlqAyNHqoUyYU9AOlHa8DQ9VJjCiZ8C8hELWlUPUDVYg qn5Q== X-Received: by 10.152.3.42 with SMTP id 10mr5821574laz.22.1385054160818; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:16:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.78 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:15:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Byron Nash Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d14b240176304ebb30d2b --089e013d14b240176304ebb30d2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Todd is doing a great job. An also, I think the unique names per layer is a welcome addition! My expressions were always getting tripped up. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > Done. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On > Behalf Of Dann Stubbs > > > > well then please pass along my thanks to your team mates, dave and dan > too. > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much for the kind words. > > > > > > I don't intend to deflate the praise, but: 1) I am just doing my job, > and 2) I > > do my job the way that I do it because my boss, my peers, and my > > predecessors have established that this is simply the way that we do > things > > on the After Effects team. Thank Dave Simons and Dan Wilk if you're > looking > > for the root cause of us talking with you as part of us making software. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On > Behalf Of Jim Curtis > > >> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:51 > > >> To: After Effects Mail List > > >> Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC > > >> > > >> Seconded. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dann Stubbs > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> hey todd, > > >>> > > >>> i know i often can be quite critical of things adobe does (and other > > >> companies too), but i just want to point out that your presence and > > >> contributions to the AE app, list, and user community are very > appreciated by > > >> me (and i am sure many unspoken others) > > >>> > > >>> lately, i've just been watching how you handle yourself and these > > >> situations - even with this naming issue, kind of a relatively small > issue; and > > >> it's completely logical why the change was made to the current method > - but > > >> the fact that it does affect even one user it matters to you and to > find the > > >> best resolution and being open and receptive to the "gift of user > feedback" > > >> rather then the all too typical "cone of silence" and "we know best" > attitude > > >> by software companies. > > >>> > > >>> it helps immensely when users are under pressure to know that their > > >> concerns, problems or issues are being heard - even if it does not > result in an > > >> immediate solution - just the fact that you are here listening to us > users, > > >> listening to our ideas, hearing bugs, offering suggestions, providing > > >> information or workarounds, as well as pushing these issues and > suggestions > > >> back to the development teams to make the product better in a timely > > >> manner, there are many other software companies that could use what > you > > >> do as a role model. > > >>> > > >>> i just wanted to make a mention of it and say thank you, as i'm sure > often a > > >> position like yours can be difficult as you probably get push back > from both > > >> sides (app dev and users) and that could easily make your efforts feel > > >> unappreciated. > > >>> > > >>> but your efforts are appreciated, so thank you. > > >>> > > >>> dann > > >>> > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --089e013d14b240176304ebb30d2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd is doing a great job. An also, I think the unique nam= es per layer is a welcome addition! My expressions were always getting trip= ped up.


= On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Kopriva <kopriva@adobe.com> wrote:
Done.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Dann Stubbs
>
> well then please pass along my thanks to your team mates, dave and dan= too.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:2= 5 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote:
>
> > Thank you very much for the kind words.
> >
> > I don't intend to deflate the praise, but: 1) I am just doing= my job, and 2) I
> do my job the way that I do it because my boss, my peers, and my
> predecessors have established that this is simply the way that we do t= hings
> on the After Effects team. Thank Dave Simons and Dan Wilk if you'r= e looking
> for the root cause of us talking with you as part of us making softwar= e.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis > >> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:51
> >> To: After Effects Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: [AE] two layers with the same name in AE CC
> >>
> >> Seconded.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> hey todd,
> >>>
> >>> i know i often can be quite critical of things adobe does= (and other
> >> companies too), but i just want to point out that your presen= ce and
> >> contributions to the AE app, list, and user community are ver= y appreciated by
> >> me (and i am sure many unspoken others)
> >>>
> >>> lately, i've just been watching how you handle yourse= lf and these
> >> situations - even with this naming issue, kind of a relativel= y small issue; and
> >> it's completely logical why the change was made to the cu= rrent method - but
> >> the fact that it does affect even one user it matters to you = and to find the
> >> best resolution and being open and receptive to the "gif= t of user feedback"
> >> rather then the all too typical "cone of silence" a= nd "we know best" attitude
> >> by software companies.
> >>>
> >>> it helps immensely when users are under pressure to know = that their
> >> concerns, problems or issues are being heard - even if it doe= s not result in an
> >> immediate solution - just the fact that you are here listenin= g to us users,
> >> listening to our ideas, hearing bugs, offering suggestions, p= roviding
> >> information or workarounds, as well as pushing these issues a= nd suggestions
> >> back to the development teams to make the product better in a= timely
> >> manner, there are many other software companies that could us= e what you
> >> do as a role model.
> >>>
> >>> i just wanted to make a mention of it and say thank you, = as i'm sure often a
> >> position like yours can be difficult as you probably get push= back from both
> >> sides (app dev and users) and that could easily make your eff= orts feel
> >> unappreciated.
> >>>
> >>> but your efforts are appreciated, so thank you.
> >>>
> >>> dann
> >>>


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