Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f173.google.com ([209.85.128.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5298840 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:29:12 +0100 Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id oz11so4810910veb.4 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:31:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=McVTKBK4nOtDALgaiVZsh/DHupFzm2x44MaZ8+Jzi2w=; b=0s83KlqC7t+czunR2+such8aZIhz90nlGEo0/bkJ70uZ/Dw0U0QXGWel/j0xdy0FwS WPD0pMZ0WeqmKASTDOvbSeLsCI1eiKP0u/IIgJ/5hO/XE7UvxNYoN8dYYfX7WxoF6BfG mLy2fEVBpiQHvWni4HtBvCL4+45mZtFBNm0UEmC4sO88IjE+JaqvnZJEMu0t31re9tgC krFQTGpSA9GBT5+IV4Irz1vDdU/7CNv7hBajvA4TzvOyIQHKKrotRjWLbXZ1Z0mzY3R7 EG5JPxPOGDedb0mM+BoHjM+cMlJKCQ3BuNARz51mu0H/B6OMSj7co8ctYeB0Y/h4emmj 48Zw== X-Received: by 10.58.75.164 with SMTP id d4mr68297vew.53.1385544685727; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:31:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mrbills@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.168.4 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:31:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: J Bills Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:31:03 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: epG8l8UlCBpwqMA31567glSxfHQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Who uses the "region of interest" feature in After Effects? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b414898d04aea04ec254219 --047d7b414898d04aea04ec254219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would love to rant on the ROI tool a bit... because it's never worked for me? In my experience, it doesn't behave like a true ROI tool should - meaning, if I draw an ROI, I would expect AE to only render that part of the comp. But from what I could always tell, AE is so heavily dependent on rendering inefficiently huge tiles and/or entire frames that it still renders everything. I get no noticeable speed up rendering a small ROI area than I do rendering the entire frame with most of my projects. Case in point, if I render the whole frame of a comp, for say 30 frames and it takes a minute, then if I render half of the comp I would expect it to take 15 seconds. 1/4 the pixels. No, it takes a minute. If I render an ROI ram preview and then change the ROI by dragging it larger, it instantly shows the rest of the comp. It doesn't need to rerender the "unseen" image... it already has it rendered. Why does anyone use it? I understand you can use it to pass crop info but otherwise, no no no... not how it should be. Nuke does it right, and it will exponentially speed your workflow with the tool working as it should. AE should only load and render the subsection of the frame that the ROI is parked on. I don't expect AE to become a scanline renderer, but tiled or no, I want that ROI speed boost. But I would love to hear that it actually does what I think it should and I've been missing something all these years... On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Behm wrote: > I was just using it over the weekend on a heavy VFX comp. like others have mentioned, > I probably use it for Crop to Region more than anything else, but there are > times where I need to work small. > > Brian Behm > Art Director/VFX Artist > Rooster Teeth Productions > > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Austin Wallender wrote: > >> Yes, indeed. I use it on heavy comps, and to crop comps. >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Mylenium wrote: >> >>> I use it regularly for cropping comps, but not otherwise. >>> >>> Mylenium >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Austin Wallender >> austin@pictothink.com >> (323) 359-1221 >> > > > -- > not getting enough of my blather? > check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com > or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com > > --047d7b414898d04aea04ec254219 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would love to rant on the ROI tool a bit...=A0=A0 b= ecause it's never worked for me?=A0

In my experience, it doesn&= #39;t behave like a true ROI tool should - meaning, if I draw an ROI, I wou= ld expect AE to only render that part of the comp.=A0 But from what I could= always tell, AE is so heavily dependent on rendering inefficiently huge ti= les and/or entire frames that it still renders everything.=A0 I get no noti= ceable speed up rendering a small ROI area than I do rendering the entire f= rame with most of my projects.

Case in point, if I render the whole frame of a comp, for sa= y 30 frames and it takes a minute, then if I render half of the comp I woul= d expect it to take 15 seconds.=A0 1/4 the pixels.=A0 No, it takes a minute= .

If I render an ROI ram preview and then change the ROI by dr= agging it larger, it instantly shows the rest of the comp.=A0 It doesn'= t need to rerender the "unseen" image...=A0 it already has it ren= dered.=A0 Why does anyone use it?=A0 I understand you can use it to pass cr= op info but otherwise, no no no...=A0 not how it should be.


Nuke does it right, and it will exponentially speed your= workflow with the tool working as it should.=A0 AE should only load and re= nder the subsection of the frame that the ROI is parked on.=A0

I do= n't expect AE to become a scanline renderer, but tiled or no, I want th= at ROI speed boost.

But I would love to hear that it actually does what I think = it should and I've been missing something all these years...
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Behm <flabbyironman@gmail.c= om> wrote:
I was just using it over the weekend on a heavy VFX comp. like others have= =A0mentioned, I probably use it for Crop to Region more than a= nything else, but there are times where I need to work small.=A0

Brian Behm
Art Director/VFX Artist
Rooster Teeth P= roductions


On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Aus= tin Wallender wrote:
Yes, indeed. =A0I use it on heavy comps, and to crop comps= .


On Tue= , Nov 26, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Mylenium <mylenium@mylen= ium.de> wrote:
I use it regularly for cropping comps, but n= ot otherwise.

Mylenium

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