Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog121.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.151] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 5305116 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:51:55 +0100 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com ([209.85.212.175]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob121.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUpzJTRThef71x/zWFMdyrCs00Jgf8Itx@postini.com; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:54:21 UTC Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hi5so5233472wib.8 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 09:54:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o3lCBAxv9yuCAU+1uoCHZVHSQxjubGc9B/L8dgCjnX4=; b=UBb96hPNnam0YPWlZm7qFUlFEV/kuk61GZm4aUBY2suaEfX2NV18dX9cvBbEQTi1mN OWgjg9dJtcNRa6xspNJ8iykvZL+sFDz+g7MEe85dfHUXEHokeqCuDnwe3qmCP2q6CdyK 94cUzb7iB/84NI5NN71kGyRAfWP5qc7mKAi/WhMTjBaO5QES6VQW7gkv0HUtCBjvCvTp 44zXhAWQ6yQ8FCWQ5fuGeErQEv6tdYHyIT4UpOz+CbxvOIiuzaIoBKVg39gzxcQ4pMkK Tu2g9WeJap1QyFm2nmiP8wHRTdJl4le9d/78HcwwZTUSiA7StVmF9FIeC5gDF+17hYA2 i2hQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlhPjcThDoXrssmeA8QQBoo6fa7NhYKitIRYrHdKVdW4LbnXL6RF7do/dbixjhB6HFAcVBd9BueOjz8v8mhL6tMHtTzcee5XKlb2B691W7vPgf7dl6760FHUM05VJSwQHdn3AHMgLyTaJR9YKQcoEsw8Zz9MY9cDn2d1uMJQPONiYPplts= X-Received: by 10.180.77.49 with SMTP id p17mr19431455wiw.30.1386006861273; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 09:54:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.77.49 with SMTP id p17mr19431443wiw.30.1386006861086; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 09:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.68.134 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:54:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Upgrade sale on mocha Pro From: Ross Shain To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043892139c999504ec90de06 --f46d043892139c999504ec90de06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mocha Pro would use the background track tries to replace the selct foreground object with clean areas from the background (from other frames in time). Also employs some intelligence to matching the lighting, etc. This can be very successful if the background is non-organic and there is enough parallax camera movement. In cases where the foreground passes multiple "planes" each bg plane needs to be tracked on their own layer. When the clean frame does not exist in the shot at all, the artist can feed the module clean, painted frames. These clean frames can be interpolated into the shot and even mixed with the auto removed frames. There is a little learning curve, but I would suggest watching Mary Poplin's Remove Module tutorials that cover clean plates. On 2 December 2013 12:43, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote= : > Mathias, > > For you as well Ross, > > Great! I imagine you saw the file that I sent you earlier today then? I= f > so and let me describe for the group, this is a dude who got a couple > fingers bitten off by a girl and they added the bloody prosthetic on his > knuckles (middle knuckle) and then his fingers were simply folded inward > but they show in a couple spots. > > Would this help in removing those showing fingers and if so, what does it > replace them with? I mean, there's no plate to work with since that woul= d > be a part of his palm that is covered by the folded fingers. > > Thanks, > Eric > > > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Mathias M=F6hl wrot= e: > >> Eric, my experience is that compared to manual removal with stabilized >> precomps (which I know you use quite often) the automatic approach with = the >> remove module is in particular powerful in situations where the lighting >> changes over time, since mocha Pro adjusts your clean plates to these >> changes automatically. >> >> Cheers, >> Mathias >> >> Am 02.12.2013 18:10, schrieb Ross Shain: >> >> Yes - basically to remove foreground objects and create clean plates. It >> helps automate some of the manual clone, paint offset tasks that VFX >> artists often use. >> >> You can find lots of videos here: >> >> http://www.imagineersystems.com/videos?tagFilter=3Dmocha+Pro%3A+remove+m= odule&sortBy=3DNewest >> >> Feel free to email me direct if you have more questions! >> -R >> >> >> >> On 2 December 2013 12:04, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wr= ote: >> >>> Thanks Ross. >>> >>> Without my bogging things down much on this subject, the remove module >>> is? Is that for object removal? >>> >>> Eric >>> On Dec 2, 2013 11:52 AM, "Ross Shain" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Eric, >>>> Yes, it is 50% off any nodelocked upgrade path. So, the upgrade from >>>> mocha AE v1-2 to mocha Pro is $347.50 >>>> >>>> The Remove Module alone should pay for itself in time savings. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 December 2013 11:46, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any special discount for those that purchased the mocha AE? >>>>> On Dec 2, 2013 11:41 AM, "Ross Shain" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey folks, >>>>>> Today is the final day of the annual holiday sale on mocha Pro. AE >>>>>> users can upgrade the bundled mocha AE (from CS4 all the way to CC) = for 50% >>>>>> off. >>>>>> >>>>>> I apologize for the marketing nature of this email. We always hear >>>>>> from frustrated users who missed the sale, so simply wanted to post = to the >>>>>> community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ross >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ross Shain >>>>>> Chief Marketing Officer >>>>>> Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual >>>>>> effects tools. >>>>>> www.imagineersystems.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ross Shain >>>> Chief Marketing Officer >>>> Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual >>>> effects tools. >>>> >>>> www.imagineersystems.com >>>> Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: >>>> rosss@imagineersystems.com >>>> >>>> Find us online: >>>> Facebook | Twitter| >>>> YouTube | Vimeo >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ross Shain >> Chief Marketing Officer >> Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual >> effects tools. >> >> www.imagineersystems.com >> Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: >> rosss@imagineersystems.com >> >> Find us online: >> Facebook | Twitter| >> YouTube | Vimeo >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------ >> * mamoworld.com * >> simplify your cgi >> >> dr. mathias m=F6hl >> marlow 52, 18551 sagard, germany >> phone +49 (0)38302 - 887561 >> info@mamoworld.com >> > > > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > > > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > --=20 Ross Shain Chief Marketing Officer Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual effects tools. www.imagineersystems.com Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com Find us online: Facebook | Twitter| YouTube | Vimeo --f46d043892139c999504ec90de06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mocha Pro would use the background track tries to replace = the selct foreground object with clean areas from the background (from othe= r frames in time). Also employs some intelligence to matching the lighting,= etc. This can be very successful if the background is non-organic and ther= e is enough parallax camera movement. In cases where the foreground passes = multiple "planes" each bg plane needs to be tracked on their own = layer.=A0

When the clean frame does not exist in the shot at all= , the artist can feed the module clean, painted frames. These clean frames = can be interpolated into the shot and even mixed with the auto removed fram= es.=A0

There is a little learning curve, but I wou= ld suggest watching Mary Poplin's Remove Module tutorials that cover cl= ean plates.=A0




On 2 December 2013 12:43, Mr. Eric D. Ki= rk <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:
Mathias,
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For you as well Ross= ,
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Great!=A0 I imagine you saw the file that I sent = you earlier today then?=A0 If so and let me describe for the group, this is= a dude who got a couple fingers bitten off by a girl and they added the bl= oody prosthetic on his knuckles (middle knuckle) and then his fingers were = simply folded inward but they show in a couple spots.
=A0
Would this help in removing those showing fingers and if= so, what does it replace them with?=A0 I mean, there's no plate to wor= k with since that would be a part of his palm that is covered by the folded= fingers.
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Thanks,
Eric
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Mathias M=F6hl = <info@mamoworld.= com> wrote:
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Eric, my experience is that compared to manual removal with stabilized precomps (which I know you use quite often) the automatic approach with the remove module is in particular powerful in situations where the lighting changes over time, since mocha Pro adjusts your clean plates to these changes automatically.

Cheers,
Mathias

Am 02.12.2013 18:10, schrieb Ross Shain:
Yes - basically to remove foreground objects and create clean plates. It helps automate some of the manual clone, paint offset tasks that VFX artists often use.=A0

You can find lots of videos here:=A0

Feel free to email me direct if you have more questions!
-R



On 2 December 2013 12:04, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Ross.

Without my bogging things down much on this subject, the remove module is?=A0 Is that for object removal?

Eric
On Dec 2, 2013 11:52 AM, "R= oss Shain" <rosss@imagineersystems.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
Yes, it is 50% off any nodelocked upgrade path. So, the upgrade from mocha AE v1-2 to mocha Pro is $347.50

The Remove Module alone should pay for itself in time savings.

Best,
Ross



On 2 December 2013 11:46, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.co= m> wrote:

Any special discount for those that purchased the mocha AE?

On Dec 2, 2013 11:41 AM, "Ross Shain" <rosss@imagineersy= stems.com> wrote:
Hey folks,
Today is the final day of the annual holiday sale on mocha Pro. AE users can upgrade the bundled mocha AE (from CS4 all the way to CC) for 50% off.=A0

I apologize for the marketing nature of this email. We always hear from frustrated users who missed the sale, so simply wanted to post to the community.=A0

Cheers,
Ross

--
R= oss Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Systems - developers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.
www.imagineersystems.com



--
Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Systems - developers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.

www.imagineersystems.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com
Find us online:
Facebook | Twitter | YouTube=A0| Vimeo



--
Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Systems - developers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.

w= ww.imagineersystems.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersys= tems.com

Find us online:
Facebook | Twitter | YouTube=A0| Vimeo


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mamowor= ld.com
simplify your cgi

dr. mathias m=F6hl
marlow 52, 18551 sagard, germany
phone +49 (0)38302 - 887561
info@mamowo= rld.com




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Eric D. Kirk |=A0Kirk Pr= oductions
The Night Visitor | VFX
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Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Sy= stems - developers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools= .

www.imagi= neersystems.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fa= x: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com

Find us online:
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