Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com ([209.85.128.179] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5306408 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:34:27 +0100 Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id jw12so11134878veb.38 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:36:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lkyp2GJns2GPY0CGg1Xl7hk9byONPIFP0IB56bxBWy4=; b=vTlRlY3GN/K6fwHkN/NgkgNLszV1jVI34hqCmsQl7+ndYQiZP+NnXocZL+g+kUrh6A 4H+Fx7WaDH962LAUTEgEYOs6gDXNaqQ4PIzJ9lbrHg3qOpakSOFuyoWY6SguHjLppiT0 IjYuH8bQMDru+7F6rq3KRh7M+KbNQrRRK6OgOrjBNayMsxMHtpUMZeeiE31pnOkIf+u9 ryGUdaIi1eVrPq1Az9/vwGLHsOFkcUKuiSq42qK9+q+IKVBB1LHiNxjVy0ruqFUfnZzr MBasM/muYB5I9dou/WRgCKwaXAciMABi82AJtylDWaltBf0c7/zsjoku7IjWyjHqlyuC oecg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.144.168 with SMTP id sn8mr59898veb.33.1386117413781; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) Sender: motoxpress@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.32.97 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:36:53 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yQ9vWevgN3NV4z8kCN7-h4ZALeA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares From: George Loch To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5da93b10f50e04ecaa9c88 --047d7b5da93b10f50e04ecaa9c88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of my mograph students have attempted to use Raytracing in AE and the results were not worth the enormous cost. However, since they are students, they couldn't pony up for Element. -gl On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, adam mercado wrote: > Nice work Brian, thanks for sharing. Some really good uses for Element I > can see. > > From the tutorials on VCP it seems to be really quite responsive for what > it does. And even for 3D text it seems at face value a better option than > the ray traced option in CS6. I've used the 3D ray tracing in CS6 at work > and its pathetically slow to the point of being unusable. If Element is a= s > good as it seems it would be a far better and more affordable solution. I > dont think true ray tracing is a deal breaker when the environment mappin= g > looks so good. > > > *Adam Mercado* > Influxx Media Production > Fullerton, CA > > Moving Images. For Business > *714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896* > http://www.influxx.com > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Brian Behm wrote: > > sorry for another post, but I dug up a couple of other little projects > that ended up in Element at some point too. > > This was a 10th anniversary card we ran in front of all of our videos > earlier this year. There are several instances of the globe composited in > different ways to create a sort of universal studios effect. > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wdrl79lq9rga3l/Final%20Long%20Logo%20With%20Fa= des.mp4 > > and the titles for a documentary I worked on earlier this year. The goal > was to come up with titles that look like they were of the era. I don't > know that we quite hit it, but I like hte look. > > http://www.behance.net/gallery/Rewind-This-documentary-titles/9488063 > > It's a pretty versatile little plugin. Sometimes it's a bit buggy, but I'= m > thankful I have it in my arsenal. > > > Brian Behm > Art Director/VFX Artist > Rooster Teeth Productions > Austin,TX > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:04 PM, adam mercado wrote: > >> Yeah the facility I work at puts OF on everything. It can be nice subtl= e >> effect. I agree I'll get the most use out of that. >> >> Out of curiosity, what kind of real world everyday projects have folks >> used Element on. For the type of corporate/industrial work I do I'm not >> sure I could squeeze 3D particles in there. The VCP reel for Element loo= ks >> lovely, but it doesn't venture far beyond military aircraft and morphing >> spheres. >> >> >> *Adam Mercado* >> Influxx Media Production >> Fullerton, CA >> >> Moving Images. For Business >> *714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896* >> http://www.influxx.com >> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Michael Powers wrote: >> >> I too use both. I think OF would be used more. We do a lot of >> projection mapping here, so we use Element more than the most might. >> >> >> >> *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] >> *On Behalf Of *Jim Curtis >> *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 5:09 PM >> *To:* After Effects Mail List >> *Subject:* Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares >> >> >> >> I have both, and I use OF much more than Element. But, I think what's >> best for you depends on what your needs are. Some people put flares on >> everything, including Element; but you'd rarely hear the reverse of that= , >> I'd think. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:41 PM, adam mercado wrote: >> >> >> >> I'd like to know, in your opinions, what is the most useful and >> must-have plug-in between the VideoCopilot Element 3D or Optical Flares. >> They use Optical Flares a LOT at the facility I have been working at, bu= t >> E3D sure does look fun. Is it something you can use everyday or does it >> become 'oh that again' like Trapcode Shine did. >> >> >> >> Obviously given my druthers I'd add both to my arsenal, but reality bein= g >> what it is and the sale going on this week, I'd like to get one of them. >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> >> >> >> >> *Adam Mercado* >> >> Influxx Media Production >> >> Fullerton, CA >> >> >> >> Moving Images. For Business >> >> *714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896* >> >> http://www.influxx.com >> >> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >> >> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > not getting enough of my blather? > check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com > or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com > > > --047d7b5da93b10f50e04ecaa9c88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some of my mograph students have attempted to use Raytraci= ng in AE and the results were not worth the enormous cost. However, since t= hey are students, they couldn't pony up for Element.=C2=A0

-gl


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
Nice work Brian, thanks for sharing. Some really good uses for Element I ca= n see.=C2=A0

From the tutorials on VCP it seems to be re= ally quite responsive for what it does. And even for 3D text it seems at fa= ce value a better option than the ray traced option in CS6. I've used t= he 3D ray tracing in CS6 at work and its pathetically slow to the point of = being unusable. If Element is as good as it seems it would be a far better = and more affordable solution. I dont think true ray tracing is a deal break= er when the environment mapping looks so good.


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton,= CA

Moving Images. For Business
714= =C2=B0928=C2=B09896

On Dec 2, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Brian Behm wrot= e:

sorry for anoth= er post, but I dug up a couple of other little projects that ended up in El= ement at some point too.=C2=A0

This was a 10th anniversary card we ran in front of all= of our videos earlier this year. There are several instances of the globe = composited in different ways to create a sort of universal studios effect.= =C2=A0

https://www.dropbo= x.com/s/3wdrl79lq9rga3l/Final%20Long%20Logo%20With%20Fades.mp4

and the titles for a documentary I worked on earlier t= his year. The goal was to come up with titles that look like they were of t= he era. I don't know that we quite hit it, but I like hte look.=C2=A0


I= t's a pretty versatile little plugin. Sometimes it's a bit buggy, b= ut I'm thankful I have it in my arsenal.=C2=A0


Brian Behm
Art Director/VFX Artist
Rooster Teeth Productions
Austin,TX


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:04 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
Yeah the facility I work at puts OF o= n everything. It can be nice subtle effect. I agree I'll get the most u= se out of that.

Out of curiosity, what kind of real worl= d everyday projects have folks used Element on. For the type of corporate/i= ndustrial work I do I'm not sure I could squeeze 3D particles in there.= The VCP reel for Element looks lovely, but it doesn't venture far beyo= nd military aircraft and morphing spheres.


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton= , CA

Moving Images. For Business
714= =C2=B0928=C2=B09896




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On Dec 2= , 2013, at 2:42 PM, Michael Powers wrote:

I too use both. I think OF would be u= sed more. We do a lot of projection mapping here, so we use Element more th= an the most might.

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From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf = Of Jim Curtis
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:09 PM
To: After Effect= s Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares=

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I have both, and I use OF much more than Element. = =C2=A0But, I think what's best for you depends on what your needs are. = =C2=A0Some people put flares on everything, including Element; but you'= d rarely hear the reverse of that, I'd think.

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On Dec 2, 2013,= at 3:41 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:



I'd like to k= now, in your opinions, what is the most useful and must-have plug-in betwee= n the VideoCopilot Element 3D or Optical Flares. They use Optical Flares a = LOT at the facility I have been working at, but E3D sure does look fun. Is = it something you can use everyday or does it become 'oh that again'= like Trapcode Shine did.

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Obviously given my druthers I'd add both to my arsenal, = but reality being what it is and the sale going on this week, I'd like = to get one of them.

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cheers

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Adam Mercado

Influxx Med= ia Production

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Moving Images. For Business

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not getting enough of my blather?
check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.co= m
or my portfolio at h= ttp://behmcreative.com


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