Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5306438 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 02:02:07 +0100 Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id e16so2854511qcx.17 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h40+RnH2qBjfqMGo8vdHPCEPflUWQE8asYX53BpawK4=; b=Oyo4w+EclbdS2cS9dxJvnjV1TQ+Eo8pfeyosN91wMYHkv99dzN+2qBdABswVrFJ6DT X9LVUpDnqPWJrSfS4dK7InIqOjnKC3r5qC/eh0Mq3X3Y7Yzip77ahW7Mzs8fbPUVGVDM qWCaL1CdMLF4tn0N5twF1HmYoPWnBdKkDwO5C2MBZ67hQT9q+og0rFBbirgMHp0FwyyE IJzQ0BsGJTp2B41AT5oSH7lQ/d9qxNeo4mlbG9np0ecGSahUchqLHx5VtOT2xbffICJa PREYJGzH+OmZD95TocHUYsLE/oci1KdhmDf9Xz0dC+6cohrSR+0DRR0Tj1PbGktk9+jT lPfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkeEZGT5DLpo03afO84XdHoc1LhJMJfOAqgMLysZgJsZTmOlqntaGQTDMBCNOp+Ukctk/eK MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.47.137 with SMTP id n9mr14730064qaf.47.1386119074261; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.86.71 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:04:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 19:04:34 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Green screen challenge question From: Brian Higgins To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1130d20209be4204ecaaff36 --001a1130d20209be4204ecaaff36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you have ReelSmart Motion Blur, you can slap it on your key and fake some motion blur back onto your key if it's too hard on the mblurred sections. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > I recently invested in the entire keying suite from Red Giant and Primatte > keyer is one hell of a tool. > > But the Composite Wizard has this plugin called "Miracle Alpha Cleaner" > which I just used for the first time a couple days ago and it was > absolutely a miracle! It took all the remaining haze completely out, > leaving me a beautiful key. > > Teddy's comments are about the best you can do with Keylight. The > contrast is about the best part of the trick. > > Eric > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > >> keylight is really magic but it's not very intuitive. The default values >> are horrible. There are a few tricks. always add a high contrast levels / >> curves in the effects stack first. Then add keylight effect and grab your >> matte color. Go and view Screen Matte only in the drop down. Now go to >> Screen Matte settings: use ctrl+click+drag to fine tune clip black and then >> clip white to get a sharp matte. Soften it a bit and then play with shrink >> / grow and roll back. >> >> Keeping the view in screen matte, duplicate your layer and remove all >> effects. Then use the Keylight layer as a Luma Matte above it- this takes >> care of spotting >> >> For really bad motion blur, especially if it's a quick shot, I suggest >> you switch to roto brush and refine edge / refine matte and clean it up by >> hand >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:26 PM, James Culbertson wrote: >> >>> I've been given some green screen shot with a 5DmkIII. Hand reaching >>> across to the back of a TV with prominent shadow: 20 ire to about 15 ire >>> where the shadows are. Seems like it was shot with higher motion blur than >>> I am used to like they used 1/30th instead of 1/60th for a 30fps setting. >>> Of course, lots of noise because it is so dark (don't know what ISO it was >>> shot with). >>> >>> Anyone ever gotten a good key with these light levels using this sort of >>> camera? I'm having a horrible time and just want to jettison the whole >>> thing. >>> >>> Thanks, James >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> VFX & Motion Graphic artist >> NEW - teddygage.com >> >> > > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > > > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > -- brian higgins | creative director Flavor 312.706.5500 brian.higgins@flavor.tv flavor.tv --001a1130d20209be4204ecaaff36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you have ReelSmart Motion Blur, you can slap it on your= key and fake some motion blur back onto your key if it's too hard on t= he mblurred sections.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@= gmail.com> wrote:
I recently invested in the entire keying suite from Red Gi= ant and Primatte keyer is one hell of a tool.

But the Co= mposite Wizard has this plugin called "Miracle Alpha Cleaner" whi= ch I just used for the first time a couple days ago and it was absolutely a= miracle! =A0It took all the remaining haze completely out, leaving me a be= autiful key.

Teddy's comments are about the best you can do with= Keylight. =A0The contrast is about the best part of the trick.

Eric


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
keylight is really magic but it's not very intuitive. = The default values are horrible. There are a few tricks. always add a high = contrast levels / curves in the effects stack first. Then add keylight effe= ct and grab your matte color. Go and view Screen Matte only in the drop dow= n. Now go to Screen Matte settings: use ctrl+click+drag to fine tune clip b= lack and then clip white to get a sharp matte. Soften it a bit and then pla= y with shrink / grow and roll back.

Keeping the view in screen matte, duplicate your layer and r= emove all effects. Then use the Keylight layer as a Luma Matte above it- th= is takes care of spotting

For really bad motion bl= ur, especially if it's a quick shot, I suggest you switch to roto brush= and refine edge / refine matte and clean it up by hand


On Tue,= Dec 3, 2013 at 7:26 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net>= wrote:
I've been given some green screen shot w= ith a 5DmkIII. Hand reaching across to the back of a TV with prominent shad= ow: 20 ire to about 15 ire where the shadows are. Seems like it was shot wi= th higher motion blur than I am used to like they used 1/30th instead of 1/= 60th for a 30fps setting. Of course, lots of noise because it is so dark (d= on't know what ISO it was shot with).

Anyone ever gotten a good key with these light levels using this sort of ca= mera? I'm having a horrible time and just want to jettison the whole th= ing.

Thanks, James


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