Return-Path: Received: from p02c12o149.mxlogic.net ([208.65.145.82] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5306959 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:29:36 +0100 Received: from unknown [216.57.150.10] by p02c12o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-7.2.2-0) over TLS secured channel with SMTP id 2fa4f925.0.45011.00-224.122552.p02c12o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 08:32:05 -0700 (MST) X-MXL-Hash: 529f4af52144d562-9bedbc1eb38647783f936f7337d99633b14358d7 Received: from EXCHANGEMBX.cramerdom.com ([172.16.1.55]) by EXCHANGECasHub.cramerdom.com ([172.16.1.25]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:32:02 -0500 From: Michael Powers To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares Thread-Topic: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares Thread-Index: AQHO8IfRztcVRIlOJ0WW6ViFcz+tDZpEJtNQ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:32:01 +0000 Message-ID: <8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A7D170EF@EXCHANGEMBX.cramerdom.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.10.1.139] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A7D170EFEXCHANGEMBXcram_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=Mf3bTeDf c=1 sm=1 a=92rrH11NjGMdhXfoADi2UA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=iHQEUFqBWskA:10 a=fvH1djJbZqEA:10 a=O91693uk2i0A:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=G7-xRGy1AAAA:8 a=ERUe88dTAAAA:8 a=mzMjgUjy9] X-AnalysisOut: [QoA:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=-RA_avEPAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 ] X-AnalysisOut: [a=jU4qhlNgAAAA:8 a=cgvAeMUKAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=bWdBk] X-AnalysisOut: [zTTAAAA:8 a=n1WFMatk0OMhOhXYG5AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=KXu] X-AnalysisOut: [LW65_DLEA:10 a=foP282CL0ScA:10 a=CfpVQWkV_roA:10 a=nG8qMnC] X-AnalysisOut: [aVEgA:10 a=mpvgK5CNQkIA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=yI7b5VRrjtK] X-AnalysisOut: [rj1iL:21 a=MZz2Pt9hyf0T6C37:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEAC] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=xGkLT-JUFZVO5UQb15MA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L] X-AnalysisOut: [4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b] X-AnalysisOut: [4A:10 a=pyRLwjn-4yEA:10 a=gzipl8CrdXhFMXlU:21 a=mTvJQlnCkn] X-AnalysisOut: [D6gN31:21] X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [216.57.150.10] --_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A7D170EFEXCHANGEMBXcram_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Probably a misuse of the term. When I fake a physics simulation, I think of= it as laggy motion/reaction by the object to a some force. I wish I knew t= he actual terminology. From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Teddy Gage Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:29 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares The staples piece is really nice. What do you mean by "hysteresis done with= expressions" though? On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Michael Powers > wrote: Jim, I just put some projects up with E3D (I have been remiss the last two = years). I will look for some variations of those projection mapped sets tha= t I templated for the editors to use with little E3D knowledge. They take a= dvantage of the array transitions, by pre-rotating the models in 3dsMax, th= en mapping the various rotations, then setting up pre-comps in AE with the= appropriate offset rotations. (It is a lot clearer when one sees it). A Projection Mapped set with lots of E3D: https://vimeo.com/80902926 6000 x 1080 piece with almost all E3D: https://vimeo.com/80902927 Infographic with E3D: https://vimeo.com/80903929 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:32 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares I'm enjoying all the samples being posted. Michael, can you post some of yours? A sample of projection mapping? On Dec 2, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Michael Powers > wrote: I too use both. I think OF would be used more. We do a lot of projection ma= pping here, so we use Element more than the most might. From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:09 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares I have both, and I use OF much more than Element. But, I think what's best= for you depends on what your needs are. Some people put flares on everyth= ing, including Element; but you'd rarely hear the reverse of that, I'd thin= k. On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:41 PM, adam mercado > wrote: I'd like to know, in your opinions, what is the most useful and must-have p= lug-in between the VideoCopilot Element 3D or Optical Flares. They use Opti= cal Flares a LOT at the facility I have been working at, but E3D sure does = look fun. Is it something you can use everyday or does it become 'oh that a= gain' like Trapcode Shine did. Obviously given my druthers I'd add both to my arsenal, but reality being w= hat it is and the sale going on this week, I'd like to get one of them. cheers Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx -- VFX & Motion Graphic artist NEW - teddygage.com --_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A7D170EFEXCHANGEMBXcram_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Probably a misuse of the = term. When I fake a physics simulation, I think of it as laggy motion/react= ion by the object to a some force. I wish I knew the actual terminology.

 

From: After Ef= fects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Teddy Gage
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:29 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares

 

The staples piece is really nice. What do you mean b= y "hysteresis done with expressions" though?

 

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Michael Powers <<= a href=3D"mailto:MPowers@cramer.com" target=3D"_blank">MPowers@cramer.com> wrote:

Jim, I just put some projects up with E3D (I have been remiss the = last two years). I will look for some variations of those projection mapped= sets that I templated for the editors to use with little E3D knowledge. They take advantage of the array transit= ions, by pre-rotating the models in 3dsMax, then mapping the various rotati= ons, then setting up pre-comps  in AE with the appropriate offset rota= tions. (It is a lot clearer when one sees it).

 

A Projection Mapped set with lots of E3D:

https://v= imeo.com/80902926

 

6000 x 1080 piece with almost all E3D:

https://v= imeo.com/80902927

 

Infographic with E3D:

https://v= imeo.com/80903929

 

From: After Effects Mail Lis= t [mailto:AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:32 AM


To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares

 

I'm enjoying all the samples being posted.

 

Michael, can you post some of yours?  A sample of projection = mapping?

 

 

 

On Dec 2, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Michael Powers <MPowers@cramer.com> wrote:=

 

I too use both. I think OF would be use= d more. We do a lot of projection mapping here, so we use Element more than the most might.

 

From: After Effects Mai= l List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]&nbs= p;On Behalf Of Jim Curtis
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:09 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] VCP - Element 3D or Optical Flares

 

I have both, and I use OF much more than Element.  But, I thi= nk what's best for you depends on what your needs are.  Some people pu= t flares on everything, including Element; but you'd rarely hear the reverse of that, I'd think.

 

 

 

 

 

On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:41 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.= com> wrote:



I'd like to know, in your opinions, what is the most useful and mu= st-have plug-in between the VideoCopilot Element 3D or Optical Flares. They= use Optical Flares a LOT at the facility I have been working at, but E3D sure does look fun. Is it something you ca= n use everyday or does it become 'oh that again' like Trapcode Shine did.

 

Obviously given my druthers I'd add both to my arsenal, but realit= y being what it is and the sale going on this week, I'd like to get one of = them.

 

cheers

 

 



 

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