Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5318883 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:48:52 +0100 Received: by mail-qc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id c9so3601519qcz.2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:51:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+wMtT2dWjHbHHvhNuWCDbLAqM5zqNpkBoKU1PXnvPC8=; b=P406ExxZ/UnWZiIk8WK/GTDQs+wD5j2Ky8DWq26XBGOxOVogLfTrBtOey1iTzKPBlS ak7FXbUtYRpyiqi6fmG6jmuIlWQlKyZ+zq8pJavUjwzcGa2FKkxBx0fJCAI+9pJw+OPS fGVsmZM13ogCaDLj2thCEZ+K8LGJ8OEKouYt94UFs4v1bkpkftkj5W8XTU3kTz28a+QL 6W/D1K8R2gUSrvyb+bCQ6oBgeVddVdEU6avGNXyKmIE8R+VXJztdOZCHNNKVs55LZAf1 labWN+ALr0Y4ao7CS+LlcAJR6kDB7jeoNleUjszT0z0ezq37miIyPq3hWOsnysjXafj3 Hz3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.88.134 with SMTP id a6mr32671465qam.73.1387198303983; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2bbba245ea104eda6463b --001a11c2bbba245ea104eda6463b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As an owner of a 1080p home theater projector as my main TV, with a 135" screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I cannot welcome a new 4k overlord soon enough. I'd expect places like mine and also wherever Google fiber is installed will first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see the usage patterns, etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another 2-3 years before it is more common place or at least more of a household word. ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" wrote: > Thanks Mylenium, > > I will read Stu=92s article. > > They recently started advertising a 4K TV for sale on UK television, so I > was thinking, what would they be able to use it for at the moment. > > Thanks, > > Anders > > *From:* mylenium@mylenium.de > *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 12:38 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video > > You might want to read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" article or so.... > It won't necessarily be better in terms what you actually will see and so > far no major broadcaster has announced any firm plans. I believe they wil= l > use it to some effect during the soccer world championships for crop & pa= n > to HD, but beyond that I would think 4k will be mostly a production forma= t > for some time. It's kind this weird situation where on a reasonably sized > home screen you won't be able to see much of a difference because your ey= e > can't keep up and compression will eradicate some of the sharpness while = at > the same time only so many people will even have a flat/ condo/ room in > their house where they could sit far enough from the screen to actually > draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails those points perfectly... > Mylenium > [Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre] > ----------------------------------------- > www.mylenium.de > > Anders Sundstedt hat am 16. Dezember 2013 um > 13:28 geschrieben: > > Hi, > I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become popular and > when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start broadcasting 4K. > I am also curious on how you would buy a 4K film, what home use formats > and players would support this at the moment if any? > Same with internet/YouTube, when do you think something better than > 1080p will be an option? > I have two reasons for asking this: 1) When is it time to consider > making my animations in 4K, 2) when would it be any idea to upgrade my TV > from a 1080p to a 4K tv. > Thanks > Anders Sundstedt > http://sundstedt.co.uk > > > > --001a11c2bbba245ea104eda6463b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As an owner of a 1080p home theater projector as my main TV,= with a 135" screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I cannot welcome a new 4k= overlord soon enough.

I'd expect places like mine and also wherever Google fib= er is installed will first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see the= usage patterns, etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another 2-3 y= ears before it is more common place or at least more of a household word. <= /p>

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt&= quot; <sundstedt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Mylenium,
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You might want to read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" a= rticle or so.... It=20 won't necessarily be better in terms what you actually will see and so = far no=20 major broadcaster has announced any firm plans. I believe they will use it = to=20 some effect during the soccer world championships for crop & pan to HD,= but=20 beyond that I would think 4k will be mostly a production format for some ti= me.=20 It's kind this weird situation where on a reasonably sized home screen = you won't=20 be able to see much of a difference because your eye can't keep up and= =20 compression will eradicate some of the sharpness while at the same time onl= y so=20 many people will even have a flat/ condo/ room in their house where they co= uld=20 sit far enough from the screen to actually draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails= =20 those points perfectly...
Mylenium
[Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre]=20
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www.mylenium.de
Anders Sundstedt <sundstedt@hotmail.com> hat am 16. Dezembe= r=20 2013 um 13:28 geschrieben:

Hi,
I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become popular and=20 when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start broadcasting 4K.= =20
I am also curious on how you would buy a 4K film, what home use form= ats=20 and players would support this at the moment if any?
Same with internet/YouTube, when do you think something better than = 1080p=20 will be an option?
I have two reasons for asking this: 1) When is it time to consider m= aking=20 my animations in 4K, 2) when would it be any idea to upgrade my TV from a= =20 1080p to a 4K tv.
Thanks
Anders Sundstedt

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