Return-Path: Received: from mail-qe0-f41.google.com ([209.85.128.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5318924 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:34:40 +0100 Received: by mail-qe0-f41.google.com with SMTP id gh4so3936406qeb.0 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:37:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ulxyCk/55XwGI/g2+X80l54EnNwJdLZraMQQpdyTNTk=; b=ztY8pBlhHJQoNAx+PlJ6uVhbbF3da2NQIqgWRTYWdBEsNg03JmlPXFhOb07zz+xcUO /ZSu1n/iF4i6/Ux7U45/TtX5lkDASm18ypOCLwojMqki6CgXvajRh9UjTNld4qC5E+Uk dJWyfE2s9s2lQ0/hcKm2qY92J1MwCYrsE2Sx2aSsC/pWnJLxvZVgsEoSzmpI4TKhkc2q pe46pFQLgNStlc9FUP91c1NLvAVAtiPVkq1Y3LD+64iEjgO9gOP9cJmJgQqlv9O3JIUx LwkR3N0y6OYq+kJHi3R0sRR42sAPXE5fa5nQOIcg/gOgrR09Itq7TzNmQB1RzcHuQldj OpzQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.11.68 with SMTP id s4mr32966658qas.88.1387201052049; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:37:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2c370f0a37404eda6e98a --001a11c2c370f0a37404eda6e98a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, forgot to mention. Sony has stated that the PS4 will have 4k abilities patched in at some point during its lifespan. Only for video purposes though, not for games. In that sense, they will probably provide digital streams/downloads for 4k content. ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Dec 16, 2013 8:31 AM, "email blanca" wrote: > One other aspect I have not seen mentioned or I have missed it if it was, > is the potential of using 3D glasses for some games, to allow multiple > users to use the same screen at the same time in the same game. > > I too run a 1080P projector ( Sony SXRD VW90 ) on a 10' wide 2.40 format > screen in my studio / home theater. I too would love to see what a 4k > projector looks like displaying 4k content or even up scaling 1080p conte= nt. > > RJ > ... > > On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Greg Balint wrote: > > As an owner of a 1080p home theater projector as my main TV, with a 135" > screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I cannot welcome a new 4k overlord soon > enough. > > I'd expect places like mine and also wherever Google fiber is installed > will first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see the usage pattern= s, > etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another 2-3 years before it is more > common place or at least more of a household word. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" wrote= : > >> Thanks Mylenium, >> >> I will read Stu=92s article. >> >> They recently started advertising a 4K TV for sale on UK television, so = I >> was thinking, what would they be able to use it for at the moment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Anders >> >> *From:* mylenium@mylenium.de >> *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 12:38 PM >> *To:* After Effects Mail List >> *Subject:* Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video >> >> You might want to read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" article or >> so.... It won't necessarily be better in terms what you actually will se= e >> and so far no major broadcaster has announced any firm plans. I believe >> they will use it to some effect during the soccer world championships fo= r >> crop & pan to HD, but beyond that I would think 4k will be mostly a >> production format for some time. It's kind this weird situation where on= a >> reasonably sized home screen you won't be able to see much of a differen= ce >> because your eye can't keep up and compression will eradicate some of th= e >> sharpness while at the same time only so many people will even have a fl= at/ >> condo/ room in their house where they could sit far enough from the scre= en >> to actually draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails those points perfectly... >> Mylenium >> [Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre] >> ----------------------------------------- >> www.mylenium.de >> >> Anders Sundstedt hat am 16. Dezember 2013 um >> 13:28 geschrieben: >> >> Hi, >> I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become popular and >> when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start broadcasting 4K= . >> I am also curious on how you would buy a 4K film, what home use formats >> and players would support this at the moment if any? >> Same with internet/YouTube, when do you think something better than >> 1080p will be an option? >> I have two reasons for asking this: 1) When is it time to consider >> making my animations in 4K, 2) when would it be any idea to upgrade my T= V >> from a 1080p to a 4K tv. >> Thanks >> Anders Sundstedt >> http://sundstedt.co.uk >> >> >> >> > > --001a11c2c370f0a37404eda6e98a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Also, forgot to mention. Sony has stated that the PS4 will h= ave 4k abilities patched in at some point during its lifespan. Only for vid= eo purposes though, not for games.

In that sense, they will probably provide digital streams/do= wnloads for 4k content.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Dec 16, 2013 8:31 AM, "email blanca"= ; <email@blanca.com> wrote:
One other aspect I have not seen mentio= ned or I have missed it if it was, is the potential of using 3D glasses for= some games, to allow multiple users to use the same screen at the same tim= e in the same game.

I too run a 1080P projector ( Sony SXRD VW90 ) on a 10' = wide 2.40 format screen in my studio / home theater. I too would love to se= e what a 4k projector looks like displaying 4k content or even up scaling 1= 080p content.

RJ
...

On Dec 16, 201= 3, at 7:51 AM, Greg Balint wrote:

As an owner of a 1080p home theater projector as my main TV, with = a 135" screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I cannot welcome a new 4k overl= ord soon enough.

I'd expect places like mine and also wherever Google fib= er is installed will first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see the= usage patterns, etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another 2-3 y= ears before it is more common place or at least more of a household word. <= /p>

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.= 514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt&= quot; <sundst= edt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Mylenium,
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They recently started advertising a 4K TV for sale on UK television, s= o I=20 was thinking, what would they be able to use it for at the moment.
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Thanks,
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video
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You might want to read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" a= rticle or so.... It=20 won't necessarily be better in terms what you actually will see and so = far no=20 major broadcaster has announced any firm plans. I believe they will use it = to=20 some effect during the soccer world championships for crop & pan to HD,= but=20 beyond that I would think 4k will be mostly a production format for some ti= me.=20 It's kind this weird situation where on a reasonably sized home screen = you won't=20 be able to see much of a difference because your eye can't keep up and= =20 compression will eradicate some of the sharpness while at the same time onl= y so=20 many people will even have a flat/ condo/ room in their house where they co= uld=20 sit far enough from the screen to actually draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails= =20 those points perfectly...
Mylenium
[Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre]=20
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www.mylenium.de
Anders Sundstedt <sundstedt@hotmail.com> hat am 16. Dezembe= r=20 2013 um 13:28 geschrieben:

Hi,
I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become popular and=20 when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start broadcasting 4K.= =20
I am also curious on how you would buy a 4K film, what home use form= ats=20 and players would support this at the moment if any?
Same with internet/YouTube, when do you think something better than = 1080p=20 will be an option?
I have two reasons for asking this: 1) When is it time to consider m= aking=20 my animations in 4K, 2) when would it be any idea to upgrade my TV from a= =20 1080p to a 4K tv.
Thanks
Anders Sundstedt

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