Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.177] (HELO homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5319094 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:05:51 +0100 Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DF3704086 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:08:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=hBi5Fu7bt5axXblyOlrZhPeEI9U= ; b=nK4LeGNrFIxixuTNHVdhGmuRgrvyTWXh1ryQqaqG0fRudxcoQY8kX5KpagB+ ne4sG8L8wChDeHiob1vImkbbAcJw1mOmUq+xmkYy+NtNaMIfgzkjMYckoDfgfoPJ BkuLuxUN73w/uOc8mOzCa7BlUI6a8hTOsdeHdAvQEtCaKKk= Received: from [192.168.0.14] (cpe-98-148-138-81.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.138.81]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E006C704094 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:08:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-884627446 Message-Id: <1D8DFB35-1B4E-4D9F-8664-291AE295C32B@influxx.com> From: adam mercado Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:08:40 -0800 To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-4-884627446 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed =46rom what I understand, even basic HD uptake amongst general =20 consumers has been pitifully slow, so I don't expect 4k to become a =20 player anytime soon. I also heard 3D TVs are already on their way =20 out, as they flopped in the marketplace. Joe Consumer is neither =20 interested nor educated enough to appreciate the difference. Big =20 screen =3D better picture and that is all. If it takes off it will be =20= with niche, experts and hobbyists. Just my speculation. Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Greg Balint wrote: > As an owner of a 1080p home theater projector as my main TV, with a =20= > 135" screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I cannot welcome a new 4k =20 > overlord soon enough. > > I'd expect places like mine and also wherever Google fiber is =20 > installed will first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see =20 > the usage patterns, etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another =20 > 2-3 years before it is more common place or at least more of a =20 > household word. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > > On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" =20= > wrote: > Thanks Mylenium, > > I will read Stu=92s article. > > They recently started advertising a 4K TV for sale on UK =20 > television, so I was thinking, what would they be able to use it =20 > for at the moment. > > Thanks, > > Anders > > From: mylenium@mylenium.de > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:38 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video > > You might want to read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" article or =20 > so.... It won't necessarily be better in terms what you actually =20 > will see and so far no major broadcaster has announced any firm =20 > plans. I believe they will use it to some effect during the soccer =20 > world championships for crop & pan to HD, but beyond that I would =20 > think 4k will be mostly a production format for some time. It's =20 > kind this weird situation where on a reasonably sized home screen =20 > you won't be able to see much of a difference because your eye =20 > can't keep up and compression will eradicate some of the sharpness =20 > while at the same time only so many people will even have a flat/ =20 > condo/ room in their house where they could sit far enough from the =20= > screen to actually draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails those points =20 > perfectly... > Mylenium > [Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre] > ----------------------------------------- > www.mylenium.de >> Anders Sundstedt hat am 16. Dezember 2013 =20 >> um 13:28 geschrieben: >> >> Hi, >> I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become popular and =20 >> when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start =20 >> broadcasting 4K. >> I am also curious on how you would buy a 4K film, what home use =20 >> formats and players would support this at the moment if any? >> Same with internet/YouTube, when do you think something better =20 >> than 1080p will be an option? >> I have two reasons for asking this: 1) When is it time to consider =20= >> making my animations in 4K, 2) when would it be any idea to =20 >> upgrade my TV from a 1080p to a 4K tv. >> Thanks >> Anders Sundstedt >> http://sundstedt.co.uk > > --Apple-Mail-4-884627446 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 =46rom what I understand, even basic HD uptake amongst general consumers = has been pitifully slow, so I don't expect 4k to become a player anytime = soon. I also heard 3D TVs are already on their way out, as they flopped = in the marketplace. Joe Consumer is neither interested nor educated = enough to appreciate the difference. Big screen =3D better picture and = that is all. If it takes off it will be with niche, experts and = hobbyists. Just my speculation.



On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Greg Balint = wrote:

As an owner of a 1080p home theater = projector as my main TV, with a 135" screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I = cannot welcome a new 4k overlord soon enough.

I'd = expect places like mine and also wherever Google fiber is installed will = first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see the usage patterns, = etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another 2-3 years before it is more = common place or at least more of a household word.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics = Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
   

=
On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" = <sundstedt@hotmail.com>= wrote:
=
Thanks = Mylenium,
 
I will read Stu=92s = article.
 
They recently started advertising = a 4K TV for sale on UK television, so I was thinking, what would they be = able to use it for at the moment.
 
=
Thanks,
 
Anders
 
=
Sent: = Monday, December 16, 2013 12:38 PM
=
Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K = TV/video
 
You might want to = read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" article or so.... It won't = necessarily be better in terms what you actually will see and so far no = major broadcaster has announced any firm plans. I believe they will use = it to some effect during the soccer world championships for crop & = pan to HD, but beyond that I would think 4k will be mostly a production = format for some time. It's kind this weird situation where on a = reasonably sized home screen you won't be able to see much of a = difference because your eye can't keep up and compression will eradicate = some of the sharpness while at the same time only so many people will = even have a flat/ condo/ room in their house where they could sit far = enough from the screen to actually draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails = those points perfectly...
Mylenium
=
[Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre] =
-----------------------------------------
www.mylenium.de =
Anders Sundstedt = <sundstedt@hotmail.com> hat am 16. Dezember = 2013 um 13:28 geschrieben:

Hi,
=
I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become = popular and when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start = broadcasting 4K.
I am also curious on how = you would buy a 4K film, what home use formats and players would = support this at the moment if any?
Same with = internet/YouTube, when do you think something better than 1080p will = be an option?
I have two reasons for asking = this: 1) When is it time to consider making my animations in 4K, 2) = when would it be any idea to upgrade my TV from a 1080p to a 4K tv. =
Thanks
Anders = Sundstedt

  =
=

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