| could be your ISP messing around / not playing nice with netflix packets. I have a piddly 7mbit DSL at the house and it works fine most of the time.
back to 4K. h.265 is the bandwidth answer to get things back inline with the current crappy US internet most of us are stuck with.
as for if to adopt 4K the question is simple. Does your work now have any shelf life 5-10 years from now ? if yes, start in 4K. if not, don't worry about it. Thats how I was an early HD adaptor and its paid for itself rather well. I am still using shots from those first shoots on current client projects. if they had been shot in SD they'd be useless. It also depends on if you are a leader in your market that tends to set the bar for local production, or not. I very much drove the local market in that respect.
so to look at it purely in terms of consumer adoption rates it may not be the right factor to look at. it all depends on where its going. HD adoption is now at 70 or 80% of the market thanks to cheap panels with lower power consumption compared to big TV's.
S Interesting. I have 3x DSL (24 Mb down; 3 up), and I view Netflix through my BR player and ethernet. I get a few buffering pauses on most programs, generally right at the beginning; some times later on into the show. Looks pretty good generally, except in dissolves and fades, which are blocky.
Amazon Prime HD slightly worse. I also see many last frames repeated prior to cuts. Strange, annoying, and probably not even noticed by most people.
Both services seem to analyze my connection speed, and adjust quality to suit. That might account for the difference in our viewing experiences.
That first statement is not true here; Netflix HD looks much better than any broadcast station on our system... I use a PS3 or Apple TV as a Netflix host, and am comparing it with Verizon HD... the Netflix stream has better detail (especially in the shadows) and less noise in general than broadcast. It's still not Blu-Ray, but it ain't bad. I do have a very fat internet pipe into the house so I'm sure that has something to do with the quality.
Brian ------ Original Message ------ Sent: 12/16/2013 2:12:44 PM Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video What they now call HD over Netflix (for example) is a joke as it is now. Fiber or satellite will be mandatory for real-time broadcast (and not slow download to a local server as with the current Sony 4K), and it could be decades before everybody has either. Hopefully not satellite, because those antennae are visual blights on our landscape.
Significant available content would be important to me, too.
To me, HD isn't just about pixels… it's also about not seeing compression artifacts. I don't consider it HD if it's upscaled or blocky or time-smeared. But,what do I know?
But, to the OP, the time to upgrade your gear IMO is when your clients are demanding it, and not a second sooner (unless you just like being the first kid on your block to have it, for which you pay a premium).
From what I understand, even basic HD uptake amongst general consumers has been pitifully slow, so I don't expect 4k to become a player anytime soon. I also heard 3D TVs are already on their way out, as they flopped in the marketplace. Joe Consumer is neither interested nor educated enough to appreciate the difference. Big screen = better picture and that is all. If it takes off it will be with niche, experts and hobbyists. Just my speculation.
Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA
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