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Yeah, I'm very fortunate to have a stead 75 down and 35 up, so it might have something to do with it.
When my wife and I were binge-watching "Breaking Bad" to catch up with the last half of the final season, I was stunned when we started watching live how much worse the AMC broadcast version looked. Very crunchy and contrasty.
However, I can confirm that Amazon video is still generally-poor quality. Also, Apple's compression is consistently excellent.
Brian
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Sent: 12/16/2013 2:31:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] [AE] When time for 4K TV/video
Interesting. I have 3x DSL (24 Mb down; 3 up), and I view Netflix through my BR player and ethernet. I get a few buffering pauses on most programs, generally right at the beginning; some times later on into the show. Looks pretty good generally, except in dissolves and fades, which are blocky.
Amazon Prime HD slightly worse. I also see many last frames repeated prior to cuts. Strange, annoying, and probably not even noticed by most people.
Both services seem to analyze my connection speed, and adjust quality to suit. That might account for the difference in our viewing experiences.
That first statement is not true here; Netflix HD looks much better than any broadcast station on our system... I use a PS3 or Apple TV as a Netflix host, and am comparing it with Verizon HD... the Netflix stream has better detail (especially in the shadows) and less noise in general than broadcast. It's still not Blu-Ray, but it ain't bad.
I do have a very fat internet pipe into the house so I'm sure that has something to do with the quality.
Brian
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Sent: 12/16/2013 2:12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video
What they now call HD over Netflix (for example) is a joke as it is now. Fiber or satellite will be mandatory for real-time broadcast (and not slow download to a local server as with the current Sony 4K), and it could be decades before everybody has either. Hopefully not satellite, because those antennae are visual blights on our landscape.
Significant available content would be important to me, too.
To me, HD isn't just about pixels… it's also about not seeing compression artifacts. I don't consider it HD if it's upscaled or blocky or time-smeared. But,what do I know?
But, to the OP, the time to upgrade your gear IMO is when your clients are demanding it, and not a second sooner (unless you just like being the first kid on your block to have it, for which you pay a premium).
From what I understand, even basic HD uptake amongst general consumers has been pitifully slow, so I don't expect 4k to become a player anytime soon. I also heard 3D TVs are already on their way out, as they flopped in the marketplace. Joe Consumer is neither interested nor educated enough to appreciate the difference. Big screen = better picture and that is all. If it takes off it will be with niche, experts and hobbyists. Just my speculation.
Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton, CA
Moving Images. For Business
714°928°9896
On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Greg Balint wrote:
As an owner of a 1080p home theater projector as my main TV, with a 135" screen and 1gb fiber optic ISP. I cannot welcome a new 4k overlord soon enough.
I'd expect places like mine and also wherever Google fiber is installed will first start toying with 4k on demand videos to see the usage patterns, etc. But I'd expect it'd be at least another 2-3 years before it is more common place or at least more of a household word.
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On Dec 16, 2013 7:44 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" < sundstedt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Mylenium,
I will read Stu’s article.
They recently started advertising a 4K TV for sale on UK television, so I was thinking, what would they be able to use it for at the moment.
Thanks,
Anders
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] When time for 4K TV/video
You might want to read Stu Maschwitz' "4k in the home" article or so.... It won't necessarily be better in terms what you actually will see and so far no major broadcaster has announced any firm plans. I believe they will use it to some effect during the soccer world championships for crop & pan to HD, but beyond that I would think 4k will be mostly a production format for some time. It's kind this weird situation where on a reasonably sized home screen you won't be able to see much of a difference because your eye can't keep up and compression will eradicate some of the sharpness while at the same time only so many people will even have a flat/ condo/ room in their house where they could sit far enough from the screen to actually draw benefits from 4k. Stu nails those points perfectly...
Mylenium
Anders Sundstedt <sundstedt@hotmail.com> hat am 16. Dezember 2013 um 13:28 geschrieben:
Hi,
I am curious to know when you think 4K TV will become popular and when/what channels and what TV boxes will actually start broadcasting 4K.
I am also curious on how you would buy a 4K film, what home use formats and players would support this at the moment if any?
Same with internet/YouTube, when do you think something better than 1080p will be an option?
I have two reasons for asking this: 1) When is it time to consider making my animations in 4K, 2) when would it be any idea to upgrade my TV from a 1080p to a 4K tv.
Thanks
Anders Sundstedt
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