Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5319524 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:47:01 +0100 Received: from mbp-17.westell.com (50-55-16-4.waus.wi.frontiernet.net [50.55.16.4]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LvUlP-1VRNqd0Ul9-010599; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:49:53 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [AE] OT: WebM and Theora plug-ins for Premiere From: Steve Oakley In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:49:51 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <63A6703E-A4CE-44DC-9B36-0A965CC40F2A@practicali.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:zualh5iS1WBWgDObDelKKbnQmazZtrVFVWje1ENoOb6 mR+HMbrvN6mGhf8dz3In/KtASXaTEbTU7aKBpBo8yzuOnN8ir+ u+WbAO/Ha3I8y42PI/WEf8snV8BEbnHs2Rvs1pF3VTAnENE8tk ynrnBl2K800rPWxrgHrLmtu6UNivp2oEDuFPLKbtIV8uCk/eJ7 nwWYn3s+xGAzVrTdX5ypKvKYR3/INBBoVuSyGm53GUKsI3C0qo Ro0eV3HA281WvzNgUcuPvhQkPo2HACgvV8rrE2zjEbPg7ZI4+9 4T56wLk1Q9+f+8HvbINZ5QHukW5YheU4hgM8YD9n4Tt7kk7P6q WvowNTbSt3yQXw3bEM2bq//JmgA5pYeNx5BW2JQEcMZDu6mRU0 LK91mG4Tu0ZNw== and do I get to say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this ? for the time and effort to make it work ?=20 really because in delivering web sites we have to mess with this multi - = browser / OS / platform mess still. This is a big help in automating = deliverables. S On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Brendan Bolles = wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:40 PM, scott.aelist wrote: >=20 >> Well that's pretty cool. I haven't investigated these formats much. = Do you find they have advantages over h264 (other than being open = source?) Do you get better quality or smaller file-sizes? >=20 >=20 > VP8 in WebM is roughly equivalent to H.264, and VP9 should be roughly = equivalent to the forthcoming H.265. Theora, based on VP3, is pretty = old technology and not nearly as good, but some people still need it. >=20 > I think H.264 does generally have a slight edge over VP8, especially = when using the excellent x264 encoder. Not sure about Adobe's encoder. = =46rom what I've read, having a high-quality encoder can make as much = difference as having a high-quality format. Google should probably hire = the x264 people and put them to work on their VP9 encoder. >=20 > One big advantage for me is that WebM is not QuickTime. So there is = no chance of someone opening a WebM file in QuickTime and getting some = sort of weird gamma issue. >=20 > I haven't done thorough real-world comparisons though. That's what = you guys are for. ;) >=20 >=20 > Brendan >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to