Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5324959 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:40:25 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.118] (rrcs-24-43-70-42.west.biz.rr.com [24.43.70.42]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MSdem-1W1tT41XC0-00S7Pp; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:43:24 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.6.130613 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:43:18 -0800 Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? From: Tony Romain To: AE list Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3470384603_811827" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:AqHBlTWpaG7gCZ3Zrm6wUQWPUUW+Z9c5MMIFuQVn6l7 jfy9jCiGSZliBYw0VNlnt+aHhf4KG0766dGXVcLT0F+dtLOfJ7 pLAGdGVxut6vTtV5i+vMnMDOcGDWfHx0V68xTlW9q3MP2vPZvX Xuk0X38SXJr3svWSjfcs/OCS1sfIb7WVWbmXOzhtr1mzjBolsN qHE86I9p9AWlhpvxo8EUB7G1eQzZT7HHmayG2/DOnpXOnvgt/k gLV5gzoPW4XrvrgAxdKol1HNj9a6c/776Cs4CsW8kyWcfpeSQT MiKA/K8XYF+S4QaWWb24hMKHFXS0Jv8sSTdLDREU3YK6TQuo7b c2LCEs4lKgDpSBWJb7mxi4M3oBDuv+JoaR8vSmMV6/3B0gsvnk qoyqNYFEXiqGQ== > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3470384603_811827 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I have to say, the release of this machine is the first time in probably over 20 years I have seriously considered switching to a PC=8A If the Window= s OS was a bit more straight forward and had less preinstalled crap you have to go around turning off (not that apple doesn't do this as well) I would probably try out having one PC workstation in my studio now=8A I just cant take the time to learn how to admin a whole new OS I would LOVE one of these new Mac Pros=8A but for no rational reason whatsoever=8A Based strictly on the guts of it, there is no justification whatsoever for the price=8A My only hope is that within a year, the prices will drop to a more reasonable level=8A I know it still will be more than the comparable PC machine, but I've always been willing to pay a bit more to stay in the mac ecosystem that I am familiar with. But on this machine, I really feel like they switched from being the equivalent of being a BMW to being a Tesla=8A. I am anxious to see the geek bench scores as they start coming out=8A --=20 tony romain | principal/creative director trance motion graphic animation and design 323 651 1114 www.trancedesigns.com From: Teddy Gage Reply-To: AE list Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 10:31 AM To: AE list Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate, but unless you have unlimited money they don't really make much sense. I'm not sure exactly who Apple designed them for. Freelancers can't afford them (256 GB SSD and 16 G= B RAM for $2999? no thanks) and big studios want something better without the hardware limitations and tangle of thunderbolt cables and breakout boxes. Not to mention lack of ability to self-service. Can you imagine if there is= , say, a graphics card failure and it's a minimum 2 week period to send the machine back to apple because it's soldered in place to the mobo, while on = a project? No studio would risk that.=20 --B_3470384603_811827 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I have to say, the= release of this machine is the first time in probably over 20 years I have = seriously considered switching to a PC…  If the Windows OS was a = bit more straight forward and had less preinstalled crap you have to go arou= nd turning off (not that apple doesn't do this as well) I would probably try= out having one PC workstation in my studio now…  I just cant tak= e the time to learn how to admin a whole new OS

I w= ould LOVE one of these new Mac Pros…  but for no rational reason = whatsoever…  Based strictly on the guts of it, there is no justif= ication whatsoever for the price…  My only hope is that within a = year, the prices will drop to a more reasonable level… I know it still= will be more than the comparable PC machine, but I've always been willing t= o pay a bit more to stay in the mac ecosystem that I am familiar with.  = ;But on this machine, I really feel like they switched from being the equiva= lent of being a BMW to being a Tesla….

I am a= nxious to see the geek bench scores as they start coming out…


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From: Teddy G= age <teddygage@gmail.com>
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Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 10:31 AM
To: AE list <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it?

     Not interested in starting any ma= c vs. pc debate, but unless you have unlimited money they don't really make = much sense. I'm not sure exactly who Apple designed them for. Freelancers ca= n't afford them (256 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM for $2999? no thanks) and big stud= ios want something better without the hardware limitations and tangle of thu= nderbolt cables and breakout boxes. Not to mention lack of ability to self-s= ervice. Can you imagine if there is, say, a graphics card failure and it's a= minimum 2 week period to send the machine back to apple because it's solder= ed in place to the mobo, while on a project? No studio would risk that.  --B_3470384603_811827--