Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #52128
From: Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it?
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:59:45 -0500
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
     Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate, but unless you have unlimited money they don't really make much sense. I'm not sure exactly who Apple designed them for. 


what you are witnessing is what i call the millionaire bubble - too many people at apple are too rich and out of touch with reality and the "common" people.

it happens in many industries, american car companies, software companies, and governments... when you get surrounded by yes men, or surround yourself with people who think exactly the same way then you can't see anything other then what "you" think is best and a good thing.

personally i think apple really screwed up (yet again) you would think they would have learned with the cube, among other product failures like the 20th anniversary mac - but when your not limited by budget (stock options worth millions) and use your $10,000 computer for checking email, web surfing, facebook and tweeting - this is what you get.

what makes me nuts too is my three kids all want a laptop - the cheapest apple one is really $1200, when you can go to walmart or office store and there is a row of 15" laptops for $400-$500 - sure it's Windows and the issues associated with it, but it's plenty of performance for what kids need/want for writing papers, web surfing and checking email, even watching DVD/netflix etc...

anybody under 30 doesn't even remember when Sony was the master of consumer electronics in the 1980's and where are they now? give it another 10 years and we will probably be seeing apple the same way.

sad.

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On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Teddy Gage wrote:

     Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate, but unless you have unlimited money they don't really make much sense. I'm not sure exactly who Apple designed them for. Freelancers can't afford them (256 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM for $2999? no thanks) and big studios want something better without the hardware limitations and tangle of thunderbolt cables and breakout boxes. Not to mention lack of ability to self-service. Can you imagine if there is, say, a graphics card failure and it's a minimum 2 week period to send the machine back to apple because it's soldered in place to the mobo, while on a project? No studio would risk that.

I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM, David Torno <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:
Our office was reviewing pricing and specs. They are WAY over priced for what you get. A single machine was coming in at 7-10k for anything worth while for production work. We are sticking with our current macs for now, with plans on moving to PC possibly. 10k for PC can at least get us a monster machine, not just a tiny shiny one.

David Torno
Visual Effects Professional
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:

   Hi all,

       I'm planning on doing an upgrade next year and I'm wondering if I should even think of getting a Mac Pro. I do the usual AE and 3D stuff most folks do here and when you put up the performance levels at least on a macintosh basis, a maxed out iMac seems to perform pretty favorably compared to CUBEtwo the sequel (I kinda miss that old clear plastic box) as well as including a really nice retina monitor. Is anyone planning on getting a pro and why do you want that over something else?

       -Rob

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