Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5324996 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:22:45 +0100 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.204]) by atl4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBKKPjZv017717 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:25:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 20538 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2013 20:25:45 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 24.73.238.28 X-Authenticated-UID: dsd@darkskydigital.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dsd@darkskydigital.com@24.73.238.28) by 0 with ESMTPA; 20 Dec 2013 20:25:45 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? From: Dann Stubbs In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:25:44 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <888B60D3-FA7A-4358-A717-8BA386FB2899@darkskydigital.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) i see it as many of us have worked with or used apple products for = decades and have a lot of time, energy and investment in them to see them suddenly seem to "forget" about you and that market segment = is disappointing, frustrating and daunting as to what to do next. i'm all for apple having some nice top end eye candy machines, but it = seems the whole middle is missing - you have consumer at one end and the = overpriced boxes that are hard to put in a true production 24/7 = environment. is downtime an issue? for many it is - i have a closet full = of high end power supplies, spare ram, motherboards, video cards and = drives - for the PC's i can have it back up and running in 5 to 30 = minutes all myself for mac i have to have a spare mac around "just in case" - pull the HD = from the dead one, pop it into either an external drive case or into a = new machine and reboot to keep running. i've also had motherboards and = boot drives go bad in a mac - bad drives are pretty easy, go to most = recent clone or time machine, swap drive in and restore/reboot. power = supplies and motherboards in macs are a time sink for a 24/7 need. one year on christmas morning a server mac pro power supply died - not a = fun morning to get that sorted out and the server back running. and = everyone was on vacation or in a non-working mood so it took like two = weeks to really get it sorted out... so apple, the consumer market, great! the top tier foo-foo boxes that = look great in your fancy exective office, sure whatever! enjoy! but i and others like me really need a Ford F-150 mac workstation, = something priced in the middle with good to great performance options = with parts that we can fix/swap on our own. (and hopefully this won't = start some chevy vs. ford war) dann ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:11 PM, George Loch wrote: > I really don't understand why this is a debate. If you feel the MacPro = is worth it, buy it. If not, don't. There is no right or wrong here. >=20 > Now, go make money or really cool things or both. >=20 > -gl > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20