Return-Path: Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5325022 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:27:42 +0100 Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3w4c1n0071wfjNsADwWiQk; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:30:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([187.151.207.82]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3wUJ1n00G1nC6oT8jwURqo; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:28:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? References: From: "dennis@reelsolutions.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-E8C6138A-D50F-441A-A645-6515E0B46C46 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9B924489-B908-4D7C-921B-83615CA4B61C@reelsolutions.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:28:13 -0600 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1387571442; bh=HVoi9s1W3UMKFHbEnDsIc4vbJuvyMHQQtHQYpfX9aLE=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=mudvZWKBXkAKC0QuQWPx9QMJoPrVcdXRmFYBAesfI+A9RACny7Q9M6AcvXGoNFOrR vmwqWvebCe81h0GowrWEwlRGkTm8YWPyskmexKCnpMsIrV9vY+JFYCcRE1+IbnaQJ3 A8BXTlXft1aSKRLHWrj+ivHxFiaOigZO9gDWs1FOx/ms/wyhw5O1YzvnNBQBqIh1OR /H0GwDfZ0XG+iLBqG19LUwyVTpdCwKsrIHOIn0y8ro7V5zfnE3m3yGzKpHJe64oZj/ nqhpZYjXa4bD+BsuctU1I0otrlzh0tTJMy/4keq5KUrgn/VQA6V0fgdKjfFcTgwSd3 8pTVGidZgHp7A== --Apple-Mail-E8C6138A-D50F-441A-A645-6515E0B46C46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 3749.00 price from HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in the new Ma= cPro. - Dennis Wilkins > On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 > OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little bitter. But that 12 co= re xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and have tons more sto= rage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it would completely n= egate the price increase at all. >=20 > However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But consi= dering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't imag= ine it being functional to actually store projects on. And then you're back t= o using a RAID >=20 >=20 >> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com wrote: >>> You say "Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then=20 >>> "I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok... >>=20 >> Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've never regre= tted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, they've been g= reat at correcting the problem). >>=20 >> I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go into...=20 >>=20 >> Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I had a Mac= Pro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess they didn't h= ave the part because they gave me a brand new base model MacPro for no charg= e at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. (And they let me p= ay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What a waste of mone= y! >> This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do anything. T= ime to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly because I requested= a non-stocked configuration). >>=20 >> HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not cheap. >>=20 >> 800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it will do 1200 M= B/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily (RAID adds la= tency). >>=20 >> mho... Dennis Wilkins >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > VFX & Motion Graphic artist > NEW - teddygage.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-E8C6138A-D50F-441A-A645-6515E0B46C46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The 3749.00 price from
HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in the new MacPro.

- Dennis Wilkins

On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little bitter. But that 12 core xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and have tons more storage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it would completely negate the price increase at all.

However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But considering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't imagine it being functional to actually store projects on. And then you're back to using a RAID


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com <dennis@reelsolutions.com> wrote:
You say "Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then 
"I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok...

Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've never regretted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, they've been great at correcting the problem).

I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go into... 

Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I had a MacPro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess they didn't have the part because they gave me a brand new base model MacPro for no charge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. (And they let me pay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What a waste of money!
This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do anything. Time to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly because I requested a non-stocked configuration).

HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not cheap.

800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it will do 1200 MB/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily (RAID adds latency).

mho... Dennis Wilkins



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