Return-Path: Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.228] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5325048 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:34:06 +0100 Received: from omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3vic1n0070cZkys5Fwd5am; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:37:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([187.151.207.82]) by omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3waj1n00A1nC6oT3Wwaqp8; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:35:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? References: From: "dennis@reelsolutions.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-30D470A9-0D1C-486F-8C60-9DEE91385552 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:34:42 -0600 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1387571826; bh=8zffE9hB7l7OKOL+KnpkEVaNfilO1PIBXBUjHyUDkx8=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=Lyllgnar8c8PHjGuCQdP3pgcxjQtBhm6jo0F5Ro634koElj15JUc+A866LOoUGv6p wP3PWwSb4ER4cwh0wNfg2BOCACptYvn5XrC3hW/w3j+KNxl4QgpXVY0xowrrfemBqP Iya8MtrMbGmqPipkLdP4Nvsaf8kxXUym6kumJ5KXYI22emBsKzDMVO24DirwxHfEhC rHI1x32AUfG7c9ouhhxjKYOQARpFXh0+YUb5pvcNNZQeyh2vAcP86RNMDjEG98OATB pZqCIZCtp0zYc421rjxs+++oJADoq+XkCbLyF3EqzoRuU7uKMcJ5w5YZctZjw9jrCC 7i2wLnfub6u9w== --Apple-Mail-30D470A9-0D1C-486F-8C60-9DEE91385552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Isn't thus whole discussion about a Mac you can't buy now? > On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Brian Higgins wrote= : >=20 > You can't buy a Mac Pro with a 12-core Xeon right now. >=20 >=20 >> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com wrote: >> The 3749.00 price from >> HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in the new= MacPro. >>=20 >> - Dennis Wilkins >>=20 >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>>=20 >>> OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little bitter. But that 12 c= ore xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and have tons more st= orage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it would completely n= egate the price increase at all. >>>=20 >>> However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But con= sidering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't im= agine it being functional to actually store projects on. And then you're bac= k to using a RAID >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com wrote: >>>>> You say "Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then=20 >>>>> "I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok... >>>>=20 >>>> Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've never reg= retted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, they've been= great at correcting the problem). >>>>=20 >>>> I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go into...=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I had a M= acPro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess they didn'= t have the part because they gave me a brand new base model MacPro for no ch= arge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. (And they let m= e pay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What a waste of m= oney! >>>> This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do anything= . Time to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly because I reques= ted a non-stocked configuration). >>>>=20 >>>> HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not cheap. >>>>=20 >>>> 800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it will do 120= 0 MB/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily (RAID adds= latency). >>>>=20 >>>> mho... Dennis Wilkins >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> VFX & Motion Graphic artist >>> NEW - teddygage.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > brian higgins | creative director > Flavor > 312.706.5500 > brian.higgins@flavor.tv > flavor.tv --Apple-Mail-30D470A9-0D1C-486F-8C60-9DEE91385552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Isn't thus whole discussion about a Mac you can't buy now?

On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Brian Higgins <brian.higgins@flavor.tv> wrote:

You can't buy a Mac Pro with a 12-core Xeon right now.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com <dennis@reelsolutions.com> wrote:
The 3749.00 price from
HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in the new MacPro.

- Dennis Wilkins

On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little bitter. But that 12 core xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and have tons more storage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it would completely negate the price increase at all.

However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But considering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't imagine it being functional to actually store projects on. And then you're back to using a RAID


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com <dennis@reelsolutions.com> wrote:
You say "Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then 
"I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok...

Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've never regretted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, they've been great at correcting the problem).

I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go into... 

Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I had a MacPro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess they didn't have the part because they gave me a brand new base model MacPro for no charge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. (And they let me pay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What a waste of money!
This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do anything. Time to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly because I requested a non-stocked configuration).

HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not cheap.

800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it will do 1200 MB/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily (RAID adds latency).

mho... Dennis Wilkins



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