Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob06.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5325101 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:54:15 +0100 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.205]) by atl4mhob06.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBKKvDFm019733 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:57:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 3989 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2013 20:57:13 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 24.73.238.28 X-Authenticated-UID: dsd@darkskydigital.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dsd@darkskydigital.com@24.73.238.28) by 0 with ESMTPA; 20 Dec 2013 20:57:12 -0000 From: Dann Stubbs Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--903544048 Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:57:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <438CA53D-523F-457E-83F4-797DE66CFF96@darkskydigital.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-23--903544048 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for things like 3D rendering it is not as bad as the data up is usually = manageable and the larger data down is ok... i don't even consider = remote AE rendering due to the fact that there can be tens or hundreds = of GB of source data to be uploaded - then back down after too. as well as - read your EULA - as of C4D R15 they explicitly ban using = cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may be putting these = clause's in as well... EC2 is a third party cloud explicitly stated as = a no-go. "You are not allowed to install and use the render client version of the = Software (1) outside your Render Farm, (2) to process the data of third = parties or to provide rendering or other services to third parties, = and/or (3) on computer systems, in networks and within cloud services of = third parties." ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:48 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com wrote: > I like this idea: one downside though is when using C4D, Vray, Modo, = or apps that can offload processes to other local machines, I think the = latency would make it inefficient over the cloud for most purposes. >=20 > Dennis Wilkins >=20 > On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote: >=20 >> Yup. >>=20 >> I doubt we'll ever have in-house rendering machines again. I haven't = tried Hackentoshing OS X onto another hypervisor layer, though :-) >>=20 >>=20 >> Tim Sassoon >> Sassoon Film Design >> 614 Hampton Drive >> Venice, CA 90291 >> W 310.664.9115 >> M 310.266.8630 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Brian Higgins = wrote: >>=20 >>> I think Tim is talking about cloud rendering, either home-rolled or = via services like Zync: >>> https://www.zyncrender.com/ >>>=20 >>> -bH >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Tony Romain = wrote: >>> EC2? Amazon EC2? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> tony romain | principal/creative director >>>=20 >>> trance >>> motion graphic animation and design >>> 323 651 1114 >>> www.trancedesigns.com >>>=20 >>> From: Tim Sassoon >>> Reply-To: AE list >>> Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:28 PM >>>=20 >>> To: AE list >>> Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? >>>=20 >>> The Mac Pro base price is higher than it was, but keep in mind that = the iMac has been pushed considerably higher spec than it used to be, so = the Mac Pro had to up-spec as well to avoid too much overlap. My main = gripe with it so far is 1GB Ethernet only. I might buy one, but at this = stage, the biggest threat to Apple/OS X is probably EC2. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Tim Sassoon >>> SFD >>> Venice, CA >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> brian higgins | creative director >>> Flavor >>> 312.706.5500 >>> brian.higgins@flavor.tv >>> flavor.tv >>=20 --Apple-Mail-23--903544048 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii for = things like 3D rendering it is not as bad as the data up is usually = manageable and the larger data down is ok... i don't even consider = remote AE rendering due to the fact that there can be tens or hundreds = of GB of source data to be uploaded - then back down after = too.

as well as - read your EULA - as of C4D R15 they = explicitly ban using cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may = be putting these clause's in as well...   EC2 is a third party = cloud explicitly stated as a no-go.

"You are = not allowed to install and use the render client version of the Software = (1) outside your Render Farm, (2) to process the data of third parties = or to provide rendering or other services to third parties, and/or (3) = on computer systems, in networks and within cloud services of third = parties."



Dann = Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
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http://www.RenderKing.com &nbs= p;Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm



On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:48 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com = wrote:

I like this idea: one downside = though is when using C4D, Vray, Modo, or apps that can offload processes = to other local machines, I think the latency would make it inefficient = over the cloud for most purposes.

Dennis = Wilkins

On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com> = wrote:

Yup.

I doubt we'll ever have = in-house rendering machines again. I haven't tried Hackentoshing OS X = onto another hypervisor layer, though = :-)


Tim Sassoon
Sassoon Film Design
614 Hampton = Drive
Venice, CA 90291
W = 310.664.9115
M 310.266.8630

On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Brian Higgins <brian.higgins@flavor.tv> = wrote:

I think Tim is talking about cloud = rendering, either home-rolled or via services like Zync:


On Fri, = Dec 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Tony Romain <tonyr-aelist@trancedesigns.com> = wrote:
EC2?  Amazon EC2?


--
tony romain | principal/creative = director

trance
motion graphic animation and = design

From: Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com>
Reply-To: AE list <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 = 12:28 PM

To: = AE list <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac = Pro - Who's getting it?

The Mac Pro base price is higher than it was, but keep = in mind that the iMac has been pushed considerably higher spec than it = used to be, so the Mac Pro had to up-spec as well to avoid too much = overlap. My main gripe with it so far is 1GB Ethernet only. I might buy = one, but at this stage, the biggest threat to Apple/OS X is probably = EC2.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, = CA





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brian higgins | creative = director
Flavor
312.706.5500
brian.higgins@flavor.tv
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