Return-Path: Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.252.208] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5325123 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:12:16 +0100 Received: from mtaout-mac01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mac01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.205]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 47CBF700544ED for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarawa.home (pool-173-51-29-245.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.51.29.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mac01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A228C380000A2; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:15:15 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_45F155D0-21FA-4926-88C3-82A7CFF6C317" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? From: Tim Sassoon In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:15:14 -0800 Cc: Timothy Sassoon Message-Id: <939A7009-EDDD-46C9-970B-49F9C796E303@aol.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1387574116; bh=TWy3xfAXw+Vx0+Lqs3GWVTYeOmFuRBJyWCWJv8JEFGM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ot0IKQMYlismGaNEfuUs3CeSzS0WmzBuhISy9X90Grot5pXvW2QurSq6wTB/gsTBe VQL9HOGLAoTizPMOAZV5pd0Lgi0mXRB6sGpDsikl7IUaTjH3QPLbwK9bv2Tf4ZBPDY 9YvRP6N9V+SNZAo2dc1yM/BLMl2qXkLldtvgFobM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adecd52b4b3637102 X-AOL-IP: 173.51.29.245 --Apple-Mail=_45F155D0-21FA-4926-88C3-82A7CFF6C317 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii IMHO they'll all have to figure out a way of allowing it for $$$, or = just lose the business. Bye-bye. I want to buy software by the hour at = most; I'd prefer by the minute. I'll use Zync to get Maya/Vray/Arnold/MR = and Nuke licenses. There are two other points to this - provisioning = remote contractors with the exact installation needed, scripts, fonts, = plug-ins, whatever, and audit trail and actualization - eventually being = able to move clients to time and materials billing. One thing I like about the new Mac Pro - the size. Older Mac Pros I had = to find someone local to buy them, and iMacs are a bitch to ship. Mac = Mini's are the best - just drop them into a Priority Mail flat rate box = and they're gone. Too bad they don't have a better graphics board. I try = to sell all machines at 2 years regardless, and I'll sell extra machines = after a big show is over. Looking forward to not having to do that in = the future. Tim Sassoon SFD Venice, CA On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: > as well as - read your EULA - as of C4D R15 they explicitly ban using = cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may be putting these = clause's in as well... EC2 is a third party cloud explicitly stated as = a no-go. --Apple-Mail=_45F155D0-21FA-4926-88C3-82A7CFF6C317 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii IMHO = they'll all have to figure out a way of allowing it for $$$, or just = lose the business. Bye-bye. I want to buy software by the hour at most; = I'd prefer by the minute. I'll use Zync to get Maya/Vray/Arnold/MR and = Nuke licenses. There are two other points to this - provisioning remote = contractors with the exact installation needed, scripts, fonts, = plug-ins, whatever, and audit trail and actualization - eventually being = able to move clients to time and materials = billing.

One thing I like about the new Mac Pro - the = size. Older Mac Pros I had to find someone local to buy them, and iMacs = are a bitch to ship. Mac Mini's are the best - just drop them into a = Priority Mail flat rate box and they're gone. Too bad they don't have a = better graphics board. I try to sell all machines at 2 years regardless, = and I'll sell extra machines after a big show is over. Looking forward = to not having to do that in the future.


Tim = Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA



On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com> = wrote:

as well as - read your EULA - as of = C4D R15 they explicitly ban using cloud rendering as breaking their EULA = - others may be putting these clause's in as well...   EC2 is a = third party cloud explicitly stated as a = no-go.

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