Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com ([209.85.160.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5325134 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:25:45 +0100 Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id rr13so3125602pbb.37 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:28:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=j9QEMg+mvuhrpxrCGY12NpBoJ15OQGejCjR5UZ6N0KA=; b=WtM7sbWI3lhFxvlLlhC/zcZvjVeN5mr24oMX0bW9fPvLDyw4zQDVvFOvQonmTQ5diD 66uXZ6GEbv4+A+YPaxUgsiSjx68vd8xBHqpbCefwIqdM5vmkWBJ28tNje007cb2M0lUo TyRBRoipNyp2t93ioyFjO2wj0xo7tz75AsNZr07UDhuRHHLxXvJj8ecPqQ/wwLH+skV6 rboUZHHXu1ha8Mlvc3du/nf8e3MbWBE0duZPrCJKUEdbKHrS6F5exs9nXDtOxV7qlb1l CP3seDHr8bvUjRqMeRswSrp0JGkfd/G6bYlihmWn+V5QSCw1UF+vXSXuB8aCp+0XFKFy tDFQ== X-Received: by 10.68.110.132 with SMTP id ia4mr10889857pbb.99.1387574924674; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:28:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from Robs-Mac-Attack.local (c-67-171-136-108.hsd1.or.comcast.net. [67.171.136.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bp5sm16610986pbb.18.2013.12.20.13.28.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:28:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52B4B68B.5000302@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:28:43 -0800 From: Robert Houghton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070108020700000008030302" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070108020700000008030302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll have to keep an eye open for your next batch o sales then if you're having one this year Tim. It makes ROI much easier when the I is smaller :) -Rob On 12/20/13 1:15 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote: > IMHO they'll all have to figure out a way of allowing it for $$$, or > just lose the business. Bye-bye. I want to buy software by the hour at > most; I'd prefer by the minute. I'll use Zync to get > Maya/Vray/Arnold/MR and Nuke licenses. There are two other points to > this - provisioning remote contractors with the exact installation > needed, scripts, fonts, plug-ins, whatever, and audit trail and > actualization - eventually being able to move clients to time and > materials billing. > > One thing I like about the new Mac Pro - the size. Older Mac Pros I > had to find someone local to buy them, and iMacs are a bitch to ship. > Mac Mini's are the best - just drop them into a Priority Mail flat > rate box and they're gone. Too bad they don't have a better graphics > board. I try to sell all machines at 2 years regardless, and I'll sell > extra machines after a big show is over. Looking forward to not having > to do that in the future. > > > Tim Sassoon > SFD > Venice, CA > > > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dann Stubbs > wrote: > >> as well as - read your EULA - as of C4D R15 they explicitly ban using >> cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may be putting these >> clause's in as well... EC2 is a third party cloud explicitly stated >> as a no-go. > --------------070108020700000008030302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll have to keep an eye open for your next batch o sales then if you're having one this year Tim. It makes ROI much easier when the I is smaller :)

-Rob

On 12/20/13 1:15 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote:

IMHO they'll all have to figure out a way of allowing it for $$$, or just lose the business. Bye-bye. I want to buy software by the hour at most; I'd prefer by the minute. I'll use Zync to get Maya/Vray/Arnold/MR and Nuke licenses. There are two other points to this - provisioning remote contractors with the exact installation needed, scripts, fonts, plug-ins, whatever, and audit trail and actualization - eventually being able to move clients to time and materials billing.

One thing I like about the new Mac Pro - the size. Older Mac Pros I had to find someone local to buy them, and iMacs are a bitch to ship. Mac Mini's are the best - just drop them into a Priority Mail flat rate box and they're gone. Too bad they don't have a better graphics board. I try to sell all machines at 2 years regardless, and I'll sell extra machines after a big show is over. Looking forward to not having to do that in the future.

Tim Sassoon

SFD

Venice, CA

On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com> wrote:

as well as - read your EULA - as of C4D R15 they explicitly ban using cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may be putting these clause's in as well... EC2 is a third party cloud explicitly stated as a no-go.

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