Return-Path: Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5325295 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 23:53:31 +0100 Received: from EDITINGPC ([unknown] [71.188.95.171]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MY400MENNQ2AU30@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:56:27 -0600 (CST) Message-id: From: "Glenn Ferguson" To: "After Effects Mail List" References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:54:37 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011B_01CEFDAC.8C954C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01CEFDAC.8C954C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That $2999 is for a quad core xeon with 12 gigs of ram and a 256GB SSD = available December 30th and can be pre-ordered now. I haven't done the = research, but really, you can't find a PC with those specs for = significantly less? From: dennis@reelsolutions.com=20 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:28 PM To: After Effects Mail List=20 Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? The 3749.00 price from HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in the = new MacPro. - Dennis Wilkins On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little bitter. But that = 12 core xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and have tons = more storage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it would = completely negate the price increase at all. However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But = considering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I = can't imagine it being functional to actually store projects on. And = then you're back to using a RAID On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com = wrote: You say "Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then = "I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok... Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've never = regretted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, = they've been great at correcting the problem). I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go into...=20 Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I had = a MacPro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess = they didn't have the part because they gave me a brand new base model = MacPro for no charge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic = fee. (And they let me pay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest = MacPro). What a waste of money! This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do = anything. Time to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly = because I requested a non-stocked configuration). HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not cheap. 800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it will do = 1200 MB/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily = (RAID adds latency). mho... Dennis Wilkins --=20 VFX & Motion Graphic artist NEW - teddygage.com ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01CEFDAC.8C954C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That $2999 is for a quad core xeon with 12 = gigs of ram=20 and a 256GB SSD available December 30th and can be pre-ordered = now.  I=20 haven't done the research, but really, you can't find a PC with those = specs for=20 significantly less?

From: dennis@reelsolutions.com =
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:28 PM
To: After Effects Mail List =
Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting=20 it?

The 3749.00 price from
HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in = the new=20 MacPro.

- Dennis Wilkins

On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>=20 wrote:

OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little = bitter. But=20 that 12 core xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and = have tons=20 more storage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it = would=20 completely negate the price increase at all.

However, I agree, = it is a=20 fast SSD with little to compare it to. But considering my base OS 10.9 = + Apps=20 takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't imagine it being functional = to=20 actually store projects on. And then you're back to using a = RAID


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com = <dennis@reelsolutions.com> wrote:
You say "Not interested = in starting=20 any mac vs. pc debate..." Then 
"I imagine they are mainly = for=20 rich nerds to show off?" ...=20 Ok...

Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've = never=20 regretted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, = they've=20 been great at correcting the problem).

I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go = into... 

Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I = had a=20 MacPro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess = they=20 didn't have the part because they gave me a brand new base model = MacPro for=20 no charge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. = (And they=20 let me pay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What = a waste=20 of money!
This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do=20 anything. Time to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly = because=20 I requested a non-stocked configuration).

HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not=20 cheap.

800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it = will do=20 1200 MB/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily = (RAID=20 adds latency).

mho... Dennis Wilkins


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VFX & Motion Graphic artist
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