Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob18.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.58] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5325349 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:46:31 +0100 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.206]) by atl4mhob18.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBKNnUSX023723 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:49:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 14401 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2013 23:49:30 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 60.225.102.245 X-Authenticated-UID: chris@chriszwar.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (chris@chriszwar.com@60.225.102.245) by 0 with ESMTPA; 20 Dec 2013 23:49:30 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? From: Chris Zwar In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 10:49:26 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7FEB9F02-FA72-47BE-8B20-849F94A44FAF@chriszwar.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) On 21/12/2013, at 5:31 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate, but unless you = have unlimited money they don't really make much sense. The debate is not Mac vs Windows. The debate is "workstation" class = computers vs consumer desktops. It's not hard to find vendors that will = sell you a machine running windows for the same sort of prices as the = new Mac Pros. Once they're out in the wild and sites can start to tear = them down and review them in detail, I'm sure there will be some = configurations of the new Mac that are cheaper than a comparable Windows = box from vendor X or vendor Y. That's not the point. The point is = whether the extra money you spend on the "workstation" class components = is worth it to you. The only reason it becomes a Mac vs Windows debate = is because you can't buy a cheap Mac with expansion slots, so in effect = you have to buy a "workstation" class machine even if you'd be happy = with cheaper components. Personally I wouldn't spend $10K on one = machine, but that's goes just as much for a Mac Pro as it does for a = high end HP, Boxx, Dell, or anyone. Just to put things in perspective, though, the external control panel = for a Da Vinci Resolve suite is around $30K ($37K in Australia). It's = not even a computer, but it's 3 times the price of a fully tricked out = Mac Pro. To say - "I'm not sure exactly who Apple designed them for" - = is underestimating the high-end market. Considering the cost of an = entire suite (the software, the operator, business overheads and even = the furniture - you can spend over $1K on a chair if you want) - over = the course of a few years, the difference between a $2K computer and a = $10K computer isn't nearly as big to a large company as it looks to an = individual or freelancer looking to spend their own money. =20 Different markets. That's the debate, not Mac vs Windows. -Chris=