Return-Path: Received: from [207.46.163.209] (HELO na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5325365 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:03:38 +0100 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.15) by CO1PR06MB267.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.842.7; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:06:21 +0000 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.200]) by CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.200]) with mapi id 15.00.0842.003; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:06:21 +0000 From: Stephen van Vuuren To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? Thread-Topic: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? Thread-Index: AQHO/dZ11JVDJ53Mb0Op7ybwYl3BVZpdwjAw Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:06:20 +0000 Message-ID: <0497ea882dad45d8abb56a73dfc14d9d@CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [24.163.5.74] x-forefront-prvs: 0067A8BA2A x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019001)(24454002)(199002)(189002)(377454003)(76786001)(76796001)(56816005)(16601075003)(85306002)(81816001)(56776001)(76576001)(69226001)(19300405004)(74876001)(77096001)(66066001)(80022001)(51856001)(65816001)(47446002)(74502001)(19580395003)(46102001)(81686001)(19580405001)(74706001)(31966008)(83322001)(33646001)(85852003)(74366001)(76482001)(54356001)(74662001)(53806001)(54316002)(15975445006)(83072002)(19609705001)(81342001)(49866001)(47736001)(87936001)(50986001)(47976001)(15202345003)(4396001)(77982001)(80976001)(90146001)(79102001)(63696002)(2656002)(74316001)(81542001)(59766001)(87266001)(16236675002)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:CO1PR06MB267;H:CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com;CLIP:24.163.5.74;FPR:;RD:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0497ea882dad45d8abb56a73dfc14d9dCO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sv2studios.com --_000_0497ea882dad45d8abb56a73dfc14d9dCO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > That $2999 is for a quad core xeon with 12 gigs of ram and a 256GB SSD av= ailable December 30th and can be pre-ordered now. I haven't done the resea= rch, but really, you can't find a PC with those specs for significantly les= s? You can, a single socket Dell Precision, HP etc. will run probably about $7= 50 less with comparable warranty and $1000 or more less if via Outlet or co= upon buy. And even less in volume. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Glenn Ferguson Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:55 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? That $2999 is for a quad core xeon with 12 gigs of ram and a 256GB SSD avai= lable December 30th and can be pre-ordered now. I haven't done the researc= h, but really, you can't find a PC with those specs for significantly less? From: dennis@reelsolutions.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:28 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? The 3749.00 price from HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) that comes in the new M= acPro. - Dennis Wilkins On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage > wrote: OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little bitter. But that 12 cor= e xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro, and have tons more sto= rage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourself it would completely = negate the price increase at all. However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But consid= ering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't imag= ine it being functional to actually store projects on. And then you're back= to using a RAID On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com >= wrote: You say "Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then "I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok... Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying one. I've never regrett= ed buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16+years, they've been gr= eat at correcting the problem). I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go into... Why make an assumption how long it will take to get repaired? I had a MacPr= o way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad; I guess they didn't h= ave the part because they gave me a brand new base model MacPro for no char= ge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. (And they let me= pay the difference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What a waste of m= oney! This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't obligated to do anything. Ti= me to receive the new machine was about a week ( mainly because I requested= a non-stocked configuration). HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're not cheap. 800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad considering it will do 1200 MB= /s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate it easily (RAID adds la= tency). mho... Dennis Wilkins -- VFX & Motion Graphic artist NEW - teddygage.com --_000_0497ea882dad45d8abb56a73dfc14d9dCO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> That $2999 is for= a quad core xeon with 12 gigs of ram and a 256GB SSD available December 30= th and can be pre-ordered now.  I haven't done the research, but really, you= can't find a PC with those specs for significantly less?=

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You can, a single socket = Dell Precision, HP etc. will run probably about $750 less with comparable w= arranty and $1000 or more less if via Outlet or coupon buy. And even less in volume.

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stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

 

A film is – or s= hould be – more like music than like fiction. It should be a progress= ion of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

–Stanley Kubrick=

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From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Glenn Ferguson
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:55 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it?

 

That $2999 is for a quad core xeon with 12 gigs of ram a= nd a 256GB SSD available December 30th and can be pre-ordered now.  I = haven't done the research, but really, you can't find a PC with those specs for significantly less?

 

Sent:= Friday, December 20, 2013 3:28 PM=

Subje= ct: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it?

 

The 3749.00 price from

HP is only for the 12core Xeon processor (CPU only) = that comes in the new MacPro.

 

- Dennis Wilkins


On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I got a little carried away. Maybe I am a little = bitter. But that 12 core xeon will run circles around the base New Mac Pro,= and have tons more storage, for only $750 more. And if you built it yourse= lf it would completely negate the price increase at all.

However, I agree, it is a fast SSD with little to compare it to. But consid= ering my base OS 10.9 + Apps takes up over 150GB on my laptop, I can't = imagine it being functional to actually store projects on. And then you're = back to using a RAID

 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, dennis@reelsolutions.com <dennis@reelsolutions.com> wrote:

You say "Not intere= sted in starting any mac vs. pc debate..." Then 
"I imagine they are mainly for rich nerds to show off?" ... Ok...=

 

Count me in as a rich nerd I guess - I'll be buying = one. I've never regretted buying a Mac, when I've gotten a bad one (1 in 16= +years, they've been great at correcting the problem).

 

I've made a couple PC purchases I'd rather not go in= to... 

 

Why make an assumption how long it will take to get = repaired? I had a MacPro way out of warranty that had a power supply go bad= ; I guess they didn't have the part because they gave me a brand new base m= odel MacPro for no charge at all, they didn't even charge for the diagnostic fee. (And they let me pay the d= ifference to upgrade it to the fastest MacPro). What a waste of money!=

This was for a 4+ yr old machine, they weren't o= bligated to do anything. Time to receive the new machine was about a week (= mainly because I requested a non-stocked configuration).

 

HP wants $3,749 for the 12 core Xeon chip, they're n= ot cheap.

 

800.00 to upgrade from a 256GB SSD isn't bad conside= ring it will do 1200 MB/s. To match that speed, you can't really replicate = it easily (RAID adds latency).

 

mho... Dennis Wilkins




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VFX & Motion Graphic artist
NEW - teddygage.com<= /a>

 

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