Return-Path: Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com ([209.85.213.171] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5325749 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:01:37 +0100 Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id c10so17729231igq.4 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:04:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Oc3zShlOVsWhiI/ksTWzDG2pnyyDX1plcCgVwAe0T6M=; b=F7/Vv2B1rC2WVnX9bfJQu8XQSbTFQybICo3Eq8Bw10+41WkPPajaNv9U1rsCdRlAPR g47uaNK0jc55E1f9pEfeX+n+tF8sDrZKr0XB0e83I3W3M3vw5gjHjC+rHFFdfTYWrmB8 pXi0G33oRvHqYzmYUzfT+STIwMlSwVVHUL6R/ct7K6HVLFXR7vY35PDPNSMaCaEodasZ BeBbOKJ75JMvsMYPZuHl+5ylM1mE/3V4tznabq+II91an0b4qqqvgmoJZz35M+Wr54Eq QMtnZwakqK7ROFeJGoU/LXbWiPCL5PoNzWhDOddhB7d7UjfdlIK9k8N/35monAuNX0Fr LiHw== X-Received: by 10.42.232.206 with SMTP id jv14mr1941183icb.52.1387641878066; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:04:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.162 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:04:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 11:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] AE Question that has boggled me To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86eae637b8c604ee0d8db5 --047d7b86eae637b8c604ee0d8db5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone else have ideas on this? I seem to be missing something obvious in what I want to do. I want a scene to be dark until a light is turned on. So, if I have this stage built, I want zero light cast on it until I turn a light on for example (like a spot light on stage). Obviously, darkening the stage image itself isn't the answer. Appreciate the help. Eric On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Chris Bobotis wrote: > =CB=98Trapcode Lux=CB=98 created by Trapcode, published by Red Giant Soft= ware. > > Yup! Volumetric light(s). > > HTH > > Cheers, > Chris > mettle.com > On 2013-12-20, at 6:38 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > > Yeah...uh...thought it was trapcode, definitely red giant Lux....the > volumetric lights. > On Dec 20, 2013 6:35 PM, "Chris Bobotis" wrote: > >> Hey Eric, >> >> A link to a good visual reference would help BUT off the top of my >> head... Trapcode Lux? >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> mettle.com >> On 2013-12-20, at 6:23 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I started this thread a week two ago and have a follow up that pertinent= . >> I have this setup that includes like a large stage with a singer on it.= I >> have a bunch of spot lights focused around like a disco thing. The look= I >> want to create is to have the stage dark and when the spotlight changes >> position, it lights up the stage in the area it is directed. >> >> Any ideas on how best to set this up? I mean, I'd like the stage to be >> completely dark except where the light is focused. >> >> Thanks ahead. >> >> Eric >> On Dec 20, 2013 5:28 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I started this thread a week two ago and have a follow up that >>> pertinent. I have this setup that includes like a large stage with a >>> singer on it. I have a bunch of spot lights focused around like a disc= o >>> thing. The look I want to create is to have the stage dark and when th= e >>> spotlight changes position, it lights up the stage in the area it is >>> directed. >>> >>> Any ideas on how best to set this up? I mean, I'd like the stage to be >>> completely dark except where the light is focused. >>> >>> Thanks ahead. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote: >>> >>>> Now I see what you mean Eric. >>>> Walter explains it well! >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/12/2013, at 3:41 AM, Walter Soyka wrote: >>>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2013 11:08 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Sorry - thought I was clear. You know when you add a 2D image and >>>> add a light, the image becomes black? Then you have to change accept >>>> lights to off and the image reappears. The appearance is that you are >>>> changing it TO accept lights since now you can see it. >>>> > >>>> > Just not understanding what's really happening there. >>>> > >>>> > Eric >>>> >>>> When you set accept lights to off, you are telling the layer to >>>> disregard the lighting in the scene. It will not be shaded at all, bec= oming >>>> neither lighter nor darker in response to lights. >>>> >>>> If you have a light in the scene, accept lights is on, and the layer i= s >>>> dark, then it is accepting lights, but no light is actually hitting th= e >>>> layer. Since it's not being illuminated, it is dark. You may need to >>>> reposition your light, or add additional lights to the scene. >>>> >>>> You can use an ambient light in the scene to raise the overall lightin= g >>>> level. >>>> >>>> Walter Soyka >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert Davidson >>>> Multimedia Specialist >>>> 0419 211175 >>>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>> >>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> * >>> >>> >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> Mettle.com >> Skype: Mettlecom >> >> >> >> > Cheers, > Chris > Mettle.com > Skype: Mettlecom > > > > --=20 *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --047d7b86eae637b8c604ee0d8db5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone else have ideas on this?

I seem = to be missing something obvious in what I want to do. =A0I want a scene to = be dark until a light is turned on.

So, if I have = this stage built, I want zero light cast on it until I turn a light on for = example (like a spot light on stage).

Obviously, darkening the stage image itself isn't t= he answer.

Appreciate the help.
Eric


On Fr= i, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Chris Bobotis <chris@mettle.com> = wrote:
=A2Trapc= ode Lux=A2 created by Trapcode, published by Red Giant Software.

Yup! Volumetric light(s).=A0

HTH

Cheers,
Chris
mettle.com
On 2013-12-20, at 6:38 PM, Mr. E= ric D. Kirk wrote:

Yeah...uh...thought it was tra= pcode, definitely red giant Lux....the volumetric lights.

On Dec 20, 2013 6:35 PM, "Chris Bobotis&quo= t; <chris@mettle.c= om> wrote:
Hey Eric,

A link to = a good visual reference would help BUT off the top of my head... Trapcode L= ux?

Cheers,
Chris
mettle.com
On 2013-12-20, at 6:23 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

Hello,

I started this= thread a week two ago and have a follow up that pertinent. =A0I have this = setup that includes like a large stage with a singer on it. =A0I have a bun= ch of spot lights focused around like a disco thing. =A0The look I want to = create is to have the stage dark and when the spotlight changes position, i= t lights up the stage in the area it is directed.

Any ideas on how best to set this up? =A0I mean, I'd lik= e the stage to be completely dark except where the light is focused.

Thanks ahead.

Eric

On Dec 20, 2013 5:28 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk&= quot; <ki= rkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I started this thread a week two= ago and have a follow up that pertinent. =A0I have this setup that include= s like a large stage with a singer on it. =A0I have a bunch of spot lights = focused around like a disco thing. =A0The look I want to create is to have = the stage dark and when the spotlight changes position, it lights up the st= age in the area it is directed.

Any ideas on how best to set this up? =A0I mean, I'= d like the stage to be completely dark except where the light is focused.

Thanks ahead.

Eric


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Robert D= avidson <robdav@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Now I see what you mean Eric.=A0
Wa= lter explains it well!
Rob

=A0
On 09/12/2013, at 3:41 AM, Walter Soyka wrote:

On Dec 8, 2013 11:08 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproduction= s@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry - thought I was clear. =A0You know when you add a 2D image and a= dd a light, the image becomes black? =A0Then you have to change accept ligh= ts to off and the image reappears. =A0The appearance is that you are changi= ng it TO accept lights since now you can see it.
>
> Just not understanding what's really happening there.
>
> Eric

When you set accept lights to off, you are tell= ing the layer to disregard the lighting in the scene. It will not be shaded= at all, becoming neither lighter nor darker in response to lights.

If you have a light in the scene, accept lights is on, and the layer is dar= k, then it is accepting lights, but no light is actually hitting the layer.= Since it's not being illuminated, it is dark. You may need to repositi= on your light, or add additional lights to the scene.

You can use an ambient light in the scene to raise the overa= ll lighting level.

Walter Soyka


Robert Davidson
Multimedia Specialist






--
Eric D. Kirk |=A0Kirk Pro= ductions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=A0

Cheers,
Chris
Mettle.com
Skype: Mettleco= m




Cheers,
Chris
Mettle.com
Skype: Mettleco= m






-- =
Eric D. Kirk |=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night= Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
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