Return-Path: Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com ([209.85.213.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5325755 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:08:14 +0100 Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id k19so17611397igc.1 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:11:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=P8I0Q4TO3sivxKidNzKu0xtWRjMQUC43kqOD0EDftZU=; b=ESR8OcweNAqvtAIDIlfCJLoPiylc2qH2kkoMfHqo1JgJl4dJYpTzbUzS+cHWKH1A0k DxGFWerKRE78zmecUUBeBfoiOXnwjIpvunerh6an5NGbJjR1Z1WK4XEvItCB69dL7XXg GPB64lC7JA7YZam4edXwz6JmPi3/D48kYEBx1R/8Mmk7jenkTSWAN61uAalC2ssvAbLf SDBCkNnjdo98UPlUfQF6xbbGw7TNzxgCKLUKow8kxyZ1K/93f/c38sCLuESk/I/OmTlN CCL/N09KXPZ1SMJPd9f2rIClcWmHip9AlWJDFuHoh7LhxPgkbedw6OMSL+VocpuR3vIB AXrg== X-Received: by 10.50.117.3 with SMTP id ka3mr13328561igb.15.1387642275289; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:11:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.162 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:10:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 11:10:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] AE Question that has boggled me To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01175f6de4efb304ee0da4f6 --089e01175f6de4efb304ee0da4f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think my problem gets back to Walter Soyka's original response down below about accepting lights off and on. It would seem if I set my surface layer (the stage in this case) to accept lights, place a light over it, I should have an illuminated area of the stage where that light is. I'm not getting that however and it just remains dark. Appreciate the help. Eric On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Chris Bobotis wrote: > =CB=98Trapcode Lux=CB=98 created by Trapcode, published by Red Giant Soft= ware. > > Yup! Volumetric light(s). > > HTH > > Cheers, > Chris > mettle.com > On 2013-12-20, at 6:38 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > > Yeah...uh...thought it was trapcode, definitely red giant Lux....the > volumetric lights. > On Dec 20, 2013 6:35 PM, "Chris Bobotis" wrote: > >> Hey Eric, >> >> A link to a good visual reference would help BUT off the top of my >> head... Trapcode Lux? >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> mettle.com >> On 2013-12-20, at 6:23 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I started this thread a week two ago and have a follow up that pertinent= . >> I have this setup that includes like a large stage with a singer on it.= I >> have a bunch of spot lights focused around like a disco thing. The look= I >> want to create is to have the stage dark and when the spotlight changes >> position, it lights up the stage in the area it is directed. >> >> Any ideas on how best to set this up? I mean, I'd like the stage to be >> completely dark except where the light is focused. >> >> Thanks ahead. >> >> Eric >> On Dec 20, 2013 5:28 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I started this thread a week two ago and have a follow up that >>> pertinent. I have this setup that includes like a large stage with a >>> singer on it. I have a bunch of spot lights focused around like a disc= o >>> thing. The look I want to create is to have the stage dark and when th= e >>> spotlight changes position, it lights up the stage in the area it is >>> directed. >>> >>> Any ideas on how best to set this up? I mean, I'd like the stage to be >>> completely dark except where the light is focused. >>> >>> Thanks ahead. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote: >>> >>>> Now I see what you mean Eric. >>>> Walter explains it well! >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/12/2013, at 3:41 AM, Walter Soyka wrote: >>>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2013 11:08 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Sorry - thought I was clear. You know when you add a 2D image and >>>> add a light, the image becomes black? Then you have to change accept >>>> lights to off and the image reappears. The appearance is that you are >>>> changing it TO accept lights since now you can see it. >>>> > >>>> > Just not understanding what's really happening there. >>>> > >>>> > Eric >>>> >>>> When you set accept lights to off, you are telling the layer to >>>> disregard the lighting in the scene. It will not be shaded at all, bec= oming >>>> neither lighter nor darker in response to lights. >>>> >>>> If you have a light in the scene, accept lights is on, and the layer i= s >>>> dark, then it is accepting lights, but no light is actually hitting th= e >>>> layer. Since it's not being illuminated, it is dark. You may need to >>>> reposition your light, or add additional lights to the scene. >>>> >>>> You can use an ambient light in the scene to raise the overall lightin= g >>>> level. >>>> >>>> Walter Soyka >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert Davidson >>>> Multimedia Specialist >>>> 0419 211175 >>>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>> >>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> * >>> >>> >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> Mettle.com >> Skype: Mettlecom >> >> >> >> > Cheers, > Chris > Mettle.com > Skype: Mettlecom > > > > --=20 *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --089e01175f6de4efb304ee0da4f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think my problem gets back to Walter Soyka's origina= l response down below about accepting lights off and on.

It would seem if I set my surface layer (the stage in this case) to accept= lights, place a light over it, I should have an illuminated area of the st= age where that light is. =C2=A0I'm not getting that however and it just= remains dark.

Appreciate the help.

Eric


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at= 6:44 PM, Chris Bobotis <chris@mettle.com> wrote:
=CB=98Tr= apcode Lux=CB=98 created by Trapcode, published by Red Giant Software.
=
Yup! Volumetric light(s).=C2=A0

HTH

=
Cheers,
Chris
mettle.com
On 2013-12-20, at 6:38 PM, Mr= . Eric D. Kirk wrote:

Yeah...uh...thought it was tra= pcode, definitely red giant Lux....the volumetric lights.

On Dec 20, 2013 6:35 PM, "Chris Bobotis&quo= t; <chris@mettle.c= om> wrote:
Hey Eric,

A link to = a good visual reference would help BUT off the top of my head... Trapcode L= ux?

Cheers,
Chris
mettle.com
On 2013-12-20, at 6:23 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

Hello,

I started this= thread a week two ago and have a follow up that pertinent. =C2=A0I have th= is setup that includes like a large stage with a singer on it. =C2=A0I have= a bunch of spot lights focused around like a disco thing. =C2=A0The look I= want to create is to have the stage dark and when the spotlight changes po= sition, it lights up the stage in the area it is directed.

Any ideas on how best to set this up? =C2=A0I mean, I'd = like the stage to be completely dark except where the light is focused.

=

Thanks ahead.

Eric

On Dec 20, 2013 5:28 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk&= quot; <ki= rkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I started this thread a week two= ago and have a follow up that pertinent. =C2=A0I have this setup that incl= udes like a large stage with a singer on it. =C2=A0I have a bunch of spot l= ights focused around like a disco thing. =C2=A0The look I want to create is= to have the stage dark and when the spotlight changes position, it lights = up the stage in the area it is directed.

Any ideas on how best to set this up? =C2=A0I mean, I&#= 39;d like the stage to be completely dark except where the light is focused= .

Thanks ahead.

Eric


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Robert D= avidson <robdav@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Now I see what you mean Eric.=C2=A0Walter explains it well!
Rob

=C2=A0
On 09/12/2013, at 3:41 AM, Walter Soyka wrote:

On Dec 8, 2013 11:08 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproduction= s@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry - thought I was clear. =C2=A0You know when you add a 2D image an= d add a light, the image becomes black? =C2=A0Then you have to change accep= t lights to off and the image reappears. =C2=A0The appearance is that you a= re changing it TO accept lights since now you can see it.
>
> Just not understanding what's really happening there.
>
> Eric

When you set accept lights to off, you are tell= ing the layer to disregard the lighting in the scene. It will not be shaded= at all, becoming neither lighter nor darker in response to lights.

If you have a light in the scene, accept lights is on, and the layer is dar= k, then it is accepting lights, but no light is actually hitting the layer.= Since it's not being illuminated, it is dark. You may need to repositi= on your light, or add additional lights to the scene.

You can use an ambient light in the scene to raise the overa= ll lighting level.

Walter Soyka


Robert Davidson
Multimedia Specialist






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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk = Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
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Cheers,
Chris
Mettle.com
Skype: Mettleco= m




Cheers,
Chris
Mettle.com
Skype: Mettleco= m






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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Ni= ght Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
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