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| yes this entire thing is sad. I priced out a machine at $4017 for 6 core 3.5ghz which I think will do better than the much more expensive 8 core that runs slower. I don't mean this purely for AE work but for PP editing and Resolve / speedgrade. the machine certainly has insane bandwidth... but while PC hardware might be cheaper it comes with its own headaches, especially related to codecs. There simply isn't ProRes for PC or an an **>> affordable, near universal, size independent, very widely adopted ( or easy to get / install codec ) with deep color / alpha support <<**. start listing PC codecs and they all fail to get check marks in EVERY column, and thats what we have cried about for years. its just completely ridiculous this has not been solved by now. Win7 also has its networking problems too. don't get me started on those. so the question is, how much of your time is worth $1500-$2500 to stay on mac vs PC switch ? the ECC ram is not a requirement of most MB designs and non-ECC ram will work. be interesting to try in the mac ash tray and see how normal ram would work. my bet is it probably works fine. you can only have dual CPU's if you have zeon's :( however an i7 6 core at 3+ghz is more than fast enough for most of us. the xeon premium is a big part of the crazy price. so its cool apple built a 4K ready edit machine. too bad most of us aren not touching 4K now or in the near future. good to be looking forwards but a lot of what the machine does could also of been done more economically. I'm not going to get one. I'm going to look at the use market for a 5.1 tower instead. S On Dec 21, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote: > James, you can do whatever you want, but don't misrepresent the facts. A custom PC with similar render numbers on many benchmarks than your new mac pro will actually run you closer to $1,200-1,500. You could literally buy three hex-core computers for the price of that single mac pro. In terms of render power, that's a far cry from "a couple hundred dollars" difference. Yes the Pro has many bespoke custom parts. But they are more or less matched to 90% by regular high end PC components. For example nobody "needs" ECC RAM at 200% markup or Xeon-class chips at 300% markup. > Regular DDR4 RAM and i7 chips are just as good, if not faster, in many cases. > > You don't have to build it yourself, and you don't have to buy it from Dell or HP, who also charge a hefty markup closer to Apple's, which is where a lot of these inaccurate numbers are coming from. There are tons of mid-level workstation builders out there with great reliability and good warranties. Your justification is fine, I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money. But your comparison is simply not accurate if you understand computer hardware and benchmarks. > |
