Return-Path: Received: from motion.tv ([107.22.192.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5327599 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 04:10:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 27969 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2013 22:13:12 -0500 Received: from c-68-35-143-136.hsd1.nm.comcast.net (HELO ?192.168.0.109?) (68.35.143.136) by ip-10-196-78-239.ec2.internal with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 23 Dec 2013 22:13:12 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? From: "elaine montoya | motion.tv" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:13:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Along the line of Chris=92 comment on an external control panel for = DaVinci Resolve=85 the TriCaster 860 is similar example, except it is a = workstation. It=92s basically a tricked out PC (=85yes I wish it were = Mac based ;). The cost is upwards of 30k. It=92s all a matter of = perspective. It=92s a tool. And if you=92ve got a good use for it=85 elaine =85=85=85=85. motion.tv On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Chris Zwar wrote: > On 21/12/2013, at 5:31 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >> Not interested in starting any mac vs. pc debate, but unless you = have unlimited money they don't really make much sense. >=20 > The debate is not Mac vs Windows. The debate is "workstation" class = computers vs consumer desktops. It's not hard to find vendors that will = sell you a machine running windows for the same sort of prices as the = new Mac Pros. Once they're out in the wild and sites can start to tear = them down and review them in detail, I'm sure there will be some = configurations of the new Mac that are cheaper than a comparable Windows = box from vendor X or vendor Y. That's not the point. The point is = whether the extra money you spend on the "workstation" class components = is worth it to you. The only reason it becomes a Mac vs Windows debate = is because you can't buy a cheap Mac with expansion slots, so in effect = you have to buy a "workstation" class machine even if you'd be happy = with cheaper components. Personally I wouldn't spend $10K on one = machine, but that's goes just as much for a Mac Pro as it does for a = high end HP, Boxx, Dell, or anyone. >=20 > Just to put things in perspective, though, the external control panel = for a Da Vinci Resolve suite is around $30K ($37K in Australia). It's = not even a computer, but it's 3 times the price of a fully tricked out = Mac Pro. To say - "I'm not sure exactly who Apple designed them for" - = is underestimating the high-end market. Considering the cost of an = entire suite (the software, the operator, business overheads and even = the furniture - you can spend over $1K on a chair if you want) - over = the course of a few years, the difference between a $2K computer and a = $10K computer isn't nearly as big to a large company as it looks to an = individual or freelancer looking to spend their own money. =20 >=20 > Different markets. That's the debate, not Mac vs Windows. >=20 >=20 > -Chris > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to