Return-Path: Received: from motion.tv ([107.22.192.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5327609 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 04:31:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 28104 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2013 22:34:21 -0500 Received: from c-68-35-143-136.hsd1.nm.comcast.net (HELO ?192.168.0.109?) (68.35.143.136) by ip-10-196-78-239.ec2.internal with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 23 Dec 2013 22:34:20 -0500 From: "elaine montoya | motion.tv" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_653EBE91-AF5F-40A4-AF30-4DC1ABBCAA6B" Message-Id: <6157524F-C26A-4AC2-A9DA-D5C0CEBCD84A@motion.tv> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:34:17 -0700 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) --Apple-Mail=_653EBE91-AF5F-40A4-AF30-4DC1ABBCAA6B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 EC2 is one of the many services offered through Amazon Web Services. = (aws.amazon.com) EC2 stands for Elastic Compute Cloud - and is basically = a server. Do with it as you please. Using features like Auto Scaling and = Elastic Load Balancing, this server can easily grow to multiple serves = when needed. So unless you=92re writing a custom app for video, or = wanting to use it for web related services, it may not be of much use to = you. Having said that, AWS does offer an array of other services. The one = that is most applicable to those of us working in video is Amazon = Elastic Transcoder . Take a = look at Digital Media on AWS < http://aws.amazon.com/digital-media/ >=20 The concept behind AWS is that you can easily scale up or down - and you = pay for what you use. HTH,=20 elaine =85=85=85=85.. motion.tv On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Brian Higgins = wrote: > Zync is at zyncrender.com. If you call them, ask for Todd Prives = (formerly of Genarts.) Amazon Ec2 is a more roll-your-own thing that = someone else might have info on. >=20 > -bH >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Greg Balint = wrote: > Can someone link me to info about zync and ec2? I might be able to = make good use of them. >=20 > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > =20 >=20 > On Dec 20, 2013 5:14 PM, "Chris Zwar" wrote: > Some more information on price breakdowns: >=20 > = http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/12/you-can-spend-9599-on-a-mac-pro-but-s= hould-you/ >=20 > On 21/12/2013, at 8:28 AM, Robert Houghton wrote: >=20 >> I'll have to keep an eye open for your next batch o sales then if = you're having one this year Tim. It makes ROI much easier when the I is = smaller :) >>=20 >> -Rob >>=20 >> On 12/20/13 1:15 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote: >>> IMHO they'll all have to figure out a way of allowing it for $$$, or = just lose the business. Bye-bye. I want to buy software by the hour at = most; I'd prefer by the minute. I'll use Zync to get Maya/Vray/Arnold/MR = and Nuke licenses. There are two other points to this - provisioning = remote contractors with the exact installation needed, scripts, fonts, = plug-ins, whatever, and audit trail and actualization - eventually being = able to move clients to time and materials billing. >>>=20 >>> One thing I like about the new Mac Pro - the size. Older Mac Pros I = had to find someone local to buy them, and iMacs are a bitch to ship. = Mac Mini's are the best - just drop them into a Priority Mail flat rate = box and they're gone. Too bad they don't have a better graphics board. I = try to sell all machines at 2 years regardless, and I'll sell extra = machines after a big show is over. Looking forward to not having to do = that in the future. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Tim Sassoon >>> SFD >>> Venice, CA >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> as well as - read your EULA - as of C4D R15 they explicitly ban = using cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may be putting = these clause's in as well... EC2 is a third party cloud explicitly = stated as a no-go. >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > brian higgins | creative director > Flavor > 312.706.5500 > brian.higgins@flavor.tv > flavor.tv --Apple-Mail=_653EBE91-AF5F-40A4-AF30-4DC1ABBCAA6B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 EC2 is one of the many services = offered through Amazon Web Services. (aws.amazon.com) EC2 stands for = Elastic Compute Cloud - and is basically a server. Do with it as you = please. Using features like Auto Scaling and Elastic Load Balancing, = this server can easily grow to multiple serves when needed. So unless = you=92re writing a custom app for video, or wanting to use it for web = related services, it may not be of much use to = you.

Having said that, AWS does offer an array of = other services. The one that is most applicable to those of us working = in video is Amazon Elastic Transcoder <http://aws.amazon.com/el= astictranscoder/ >. Take a look at Digital Media on AWS < http://aws.amazon.com/digita= l-media/ > 

The concept behind AWS = is that you can easily scale up or down - and you pay for what you = use.

HTH, 

elaine
=85=85=85=85..
motion.tv

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On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Brian Higgins <brian.higgins@flavor.tv> = wrote:

Zync is at zyncrender.com.  If you call = them, ask for Todd Prives (formerly of Genarts.)   Amazon Ec2 is a = more roll-your-own thing that someone else might have info on.

-bH


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Greg Balint <delrazoraelist@gmail.com> wrote:

Can = someone link me to info about zync and ec2? I might be able to make good = use of them.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
   

On Dec 20, 2013 5:14 PM, "Chris Zwar" <chris@chriszwar.com> wrote:
Some more information on price = breakdowns:


On 21/12/2013, at 8:28 AM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:

=20 =20 =20
I'll have to keep an eye open for your next batch o sales then if you're having one this year Tim. It makes ROI much easier when the I is smaller :)

    -Rob

On 12/20/13 1:15 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote:
=20 IMHO they'll all have to figure out a way of allowing it for $$$, or just lose the business. Bye-bye. I want to buy software by the hour at most; I'd prefer by the minute. I'll use Zync to get Maya/Vray/Arnold/MR and Nuke licenses. There are two other points to this - provisioning remote contractors with the exact installation needed, scripts, fonts, plug-ins, whatever, and audit trail and actualization - eventually being able to move clients to time and materials billing.

One thing I like about the new Mac Pro - the size. Older Mac Pros I had to find someone local to buy them, and iMacs are a bitch to ship. Mac Mini's are the best - just drop them into a Priority Mail flat rate box and they're gone. Too bad they don't have a better graphics board. I try to sell all machines at 2 years regardless, and I'll sell extra machines after a big show is over. Looking forward to not having to do that in the = future.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA



On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com> wrote:

as well as - read your = EULA - as of C4D R15 they explicitly ban using cloud rendering as breaking their EULA - others may be putting these clause's in as well...   EC2 is a third party cloud explicitly stated as a no-go.






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