Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com ([209.85.192.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5330826 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 01:00:31 +0100 Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id g10so10201621pdj.29 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lXuYiHdceD+2/EU+9UCusyv1uhGCE0o4zf4ki7cBMCg=; b=sooCRCrS9YQ6ZzarXyytf0GDpUg2vWzByr7YKe+H74BAB/3eE5fiSYhg8zZBa1eY8T NCSBE+kLf9yHWiFVu3CajkvdUnTbGEbnrgxLe2Tr7WRs3G7ua0PBPyh6c00bv14P/Hof 1ufWCVdxBBHNX4lFqU/trl8YcK0yoUz3vbzHE5pIXkVXMiSJn256pOeZT4KFUsGTmGCq f6Pf0HADvi/Rzw+9dwx6vhbLYseh3rx6wBqzpHaKzWt92lzBK5JgtWI48++qImj9ixRu /Q9rWHv/C6hVG7t9jisZQJQYze4vb40sGME02qYVCWDDGtlp/Lr152PGQrTHo5FcOrDl TpjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.242.17 with SMTP id wm17mr60283974pac.102.1388275426468; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.235.74 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) New Mac Pro - Who's getting it? From: Jim Lang To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b111915a5293304eea10ffd --047d7b111915a5293304eea10ffd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The NYT gave it a positive review, but emphasized the big price tag. I believe it's made stateside, so am willing to cut Apple a little slack. On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:35 PM, James Culbertson wro= te: > FWIW, the first tear downs of the new mac pro have found that the CPU is > removable, in all cases using the same standard socket. So, that leaves > open the possibility of future upgradeability. > > James > > > On Dec 23, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Dave Bittner wrote: > > I=92ve switched our main edit suite system to a 27=94 i7 iMac after reali= zing > that it renders about three times faster than the 2008 Mac Pro it=92s > replacing. I=92ve got a 30=94 monitor hooked up to it, and a fast externa= l RAID > via a cheap Thunderbolt to SATA adapter. We=92re running AE, FCPX and May= a on > it, primarily, and for what we do it=92s plenty fast. (We are rarely unde= r > tight delivery deadlines where rendering speed would make or break us. In > fact, the biggest bottleneck these days seems to be h.264 encoding for > delivery.) > > As for the new Mac Pro, if you need the speed it doesn=92t seem the price > should make all that much difference. Even if you replace it after two > years, a couple of grand difference in price shouldn=92t break the bank f= or > an active shop with a decent number of projects coming through. It=92s > amazing to me that after all these years people are still shocked - > Shocked! - that there=92s a premium for Mac OS workstations. For our smal= l > shop it=92s worth it, since we know the Mac OS and know how to troublesho= ot > it. > > Interesting times, with all of these incredibly fast machines for choose > from. Now if you=92ll excuse me, I=92m going to go play Marathon on my Qu= adra > 700=85 > > > > > > On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:33AM, Robert Houghton wrote: > > I think I might not get the Mac Pro, while the features such as the > increased bandwidth, accuracy and workstation class video cards are nice > they seem to be overkill for what I do which is primarily motion graphics > with a growing amount of 3D animation. When honestly looking at it, unles= s > you happen to have a monitor with retina-type resolution already (I don't > presently), the iMac when maxed out at 27" seems to be a good buy. The on= ly > thing really holding me back is the mobile video card on the iMac unless > someone can tell me that it can hold a candle to a full power video card > like a 770 or 780. I do know that a Dell equivalent to the Mac 27" will r= un > about $650. > > -Rob > > > > > > Dave Bittner - Pixel Workshop Inc. > www.pixelworkshop.com > 410.381.8555 > Twitter @bittner > > > > > > --047d7b111915a5293304eea10ffd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The NYT gave it a positive review, but emphasized the big = price tag. =A0I believe it's made stateside, so am willing to cut Apple= a little slack.


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:35 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net= > wrote:
FWIW, the first tear downs of the = new mac pro have found that the CPU is removable, in all cases using the sa= me standard socket. So, that leaves open the possibility of future upgradea= bility.

James


On Dec 23, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Dave Bittner wrote:

I=92ve switched our main edit suite system to a 27=94 i7 iMac after real= izing that it renders about three times faster than the 2008 Mac Pro it=92s= replacing. I=92ve got a 30=94 monitor hooked up to it, and a fast external= RAID via a cheap Thunderbolt to SATA adapter. We=92re running AE, FCPX and= Maya on it, primarily, and for what we do it=92s plenty fast. (We are rare= ly under tight delivery deadlines where rendering speed would make or break= us. In fact, the biggest bottleneck these days seems to be h.264 encoding = for delivery.)

As for the new Mac Pro, if you need the speed it doesn= =92t seem the price should make all that much difference. Even if you repla= ce it after two years, a couple of grand difference in price shouldn=92t br= eak the bank for an active shop with a decent number of projects coming thr= ough. It=92s amazing to me that after all these years people are still shoc= ked - Shocked! - that there=92s a premium for Mac OS workstations. For our = small shop it=92s worth it, since we know the Mac OS and know how to troubl= eshoot it.=A0

Interesting times, with all of = these incredibly fast machines for choose from. Now if you=92ll excuse me, = I=92m going to go play Marathon on my Quadra 700=85





On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:33AM, Robert= Houghton <gfxgu= y74@gmail.com> wrote:

I think I mig= ht not get the Mac Pro, while the features such as the increased bandwidth,= accuracy and workstation class=A0video cards are nice they seem to be over= kill for what I do which is primarily motion graphics with a growing amount= of=A03D animation. When honestly looking at it, unless you happen to have = a monitor with retina-type resolution already (I=A0don't presently), th= e iMac when maxed out at 27" seems to be a good buy. The only thing re= ally holding me back is the=A0mobile video card on the iMac unless someone = can tell me that it can hold a candle to a full power video card like a 770= =A0or 780. I do know that a Dell equivalent to the Mac 27" will run ab= out $650.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-Rob


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Dave Bittne= r - Pixel Workshop Inc.
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410.3= 81.8555
Twitter @bittner






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