Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com ([209.85.223.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5338560 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:51:12 +0100 Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id at1so18639666iec.7 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:54:45 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=e7hWqJitGs53Uwvttabdr6ax6eZ90t6ouhQgz9wS0/U=; b=YYUzfIwFLj/OgLrQ+xU0NJPcYxEjKoqIvLhZCpeY10Rl0uz0NBkdwqe1jC2PgZ4x7t 30xjXPmp0zcgQfU0aOdi6tJfYAAsxGqkGw+RvMhBRVNPS9fxAVEdxjVUSn/o6uUIyRBb kekn6kazvjY9DqXBWm4yIcWzVMF4yKC+TaTgN2ZUPJp5aGMc9MzXoZDm+DoLnik6wEBX YBzTFkT9m8GxHsvgMGlfKK1sUZPwdQyc9I2d7aEP/YTb7IC16DMiYX/c0AiPxYpjjYBU plWrMAzNT43OcjGmsJ+KPLrsxlO0dpyVX4xcli7D6NdRlXzSgh3e6TRN2ThULUvyRCz6 SqBA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmmS7OrAdYgJx0tEw49he4EyA2wr5Y9aJAHrXUM3UPA0lGha9m+8H6pZi5vps7uZ+ovUbpG X-Received: by 10.50.67.180 with SMTP id o20mr10928214igt.43.1389041685079; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:54:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.12] (c-24-118-184-204.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [24.118.184.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ml2sm16693446igb.10.2014.01.06.12.54.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Carey Dissmore Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_72D872C0-37F5-4704-B939-6C0B02E77F20" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [AE] day rates including renting own equipment Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:54:41 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) --Apple-Mail=_72D872C0-37F5-4704-B939-6C0B02E77F20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Great story! Face time is indeed really important. But=85intereting thing=85I find = that face time with clients is inversely proportional to how long/how = many projects you have been working for them. The 15 year client places = tremendous trust in me. The first or 2nd time client=85.not so much=85 carey On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:41 PM, rendernyc wrote: > speaking of woody allen and showing up... reminds of this funny story > my dad was in session with woody allen cutting some parts that were = going to be used in Annie Hall. > during the session woody decides to write a scene in to the film of = the edit session. > the next day the trucks and crew show up and they are shooting the = scene. while the scene made the final version, unfortunately my dads = lines were cut. but you see the back of his head like a true editor lol >=20 > so there is something about showing up :) >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > Sure. Given the choice, who wouldn't? =20 >=20 > Woody Allen is purported to have said that "90% of life is showing = up." If my agency client drives for 40 minutes to supervise the = session, my request to be accommodated might not find much appreciation. = Most situations are different. =20 >=20 > But, again, I agree with you in general, Carey. If you can do that = and keep your clients happy, congratulations, you're in a nice place. =20= >=20 >=20 > On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Carey Dissmore = wrote: >=20 >> That sounds like the kind of thing I would remote in for. More often = than not, that can work, at least in my experience. >> carey >>=20 >> On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>=20 >>> That depends on the situation, Carey. For example, I've worked on = projects for a few days, and it goes to the review committee. Client = comes back and says they have "one little change." So, that puts us in = the position of playing hardball, and demanding half-day pay for 15 = minutes work, or maintaining good client relations, and being = reasonable. >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > vimeo.com/rendernyc --Apple-Mail=_72D872C0-37F5-4704-B939-6C0B02E77F20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Great = story!
Face time is indeed really important. But=85intereting = thing=85I find that face time with clients is inversely proportional to = how long/how many projects you have been working for them. The 15 year = client places tremendous trust in me. The first or 2nd time client=85.not = so much=85

carey

On Jan = 6, 2014, at 12:41 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> = wrote:

speaking of woody allen and showing up... = reminds of this funny story
my dad was in session with woody allen = cutting some parts that were going to be used in Annie = Hall.
during the session woody decides to write a scene in to = the film of the edit session.
the next day the trucks and crew show up and they are shooting the = scene. while the scene made the final version, unfortunately my dads = lines were cut. but you see the back of his head like a true editor = lol

so there is something about showing up :)


On Mon, Jan 6, = 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Sure.  Given the choice, who = wouldn't?  

Woody Allen is purported to have = said that "90% of life is showing up."  If my agency client drives = for 40 minutes to supervise the session, my request to be accommodated = might not find much appreciation.  Most situations are different. =  

But, again, I agree with you in general, Carey. =  If you can do that and keep your clients happy, congratulations, = you're in a nice place.  


On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:17 = PM, Carey Dissmore <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:

That = sounds like the kind of thing I would remote in for. More often than = not, that can work, at least in my = experience.
carey

On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:40 = PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:

That depends on the = situation, Carey.  For example, I've worked on projects for a few = days, and it goes to the review committee.  Client comes back and = says they have "one little change."  So, that puts us in the = position of playing hardball, and demanding half-day pay for 15 minutes = work, or maintaining good client relations, and being = reasonable.
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