Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.74] (HELO homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5339592 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 01:04:37 +0100 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F26C348083 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:08:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=7PJz3VNp9/5YnkhOhkSgepFs5fU= ; b=AcAklJ8ma0/oZayPCwZwa+CTNBg1kv+H0fLjxVG7YcaeqZHpVwMgPKU5BqLL /ofne/4K9pqkD7sz6LKnHMqZ22pbKzgwLeto9HmTOsemCNbjbsqLgxIPDzsV3JbN +10NUe3BhzfPlBrokohwgd1jt6sqrRGKuYt4HA+vdv+zREY= Received: from [192.168.0.14] (cpe-98-148-138-81.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.138.81]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0AA203480BA for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:02:46 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-662789175 Message-Id: <2FBDC40A-3FE8-415E-A3C0-BE50097C76DF@influxx.com> From: adam mercado Subject: Re: [AE] day rates including renting own equipment Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:02:45 -0800 To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-6-662789175 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thats interesting Greg. How do you manage to turn away clients =20 confident that will come back to you. I think most people in the =20 freelance situation take on too much work when it all comes at once =20 for fear of losing a client to someone else if they turn them away. I =20= speak from experience here too so its once bitten twice shy for me. Unlike Greg I make a fraction of what I did when employed, but like =20 Greg says the time I now have to take an active part in my sons life =20 is priceless and a sacrifice I'm happy to make. My wife on the other =20 hand is really tired of the roller coaster ride :-\ Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > I had the most lucrative year in my career last year. Not so much =20 > busy, but I made the highest in one year so far. I learned to not =20 > keep myself super busy constantly, but instead make sure I make =20 > enough money to be happy and comfortable and take some time to =20 > enjoy things. > > I'm probably the farthest from a normal solo at-home freelancer. =20 > There are workweeks which I take days off even though work is on =20 > the table, just to have some time for myself. I even turned-off the =20= > light and took a one month hiatus to try and learn game development =20= > some, while turning away projects. It felt weird to do so, but I'm =20 > thankful I tried it out. I feel I have more time off since I =20 > became freelance than when I worked a 9-5 at an employer. And I =20 > make more doing it. > > I'm not trying to be braggy here. I don't make anywhere near the =20 > yearly amount other listers on here make, but my family is =20 > comfortable most of the time, and I have time to spend with them, =20 > which is something I really value. > > That said, there are still down times which I really need money =20 > coming in and can't find it sometimes, but they don't happen too =20 > often. > > I have a client pool of about 7 companies and have been lucky that =20 > in most cases, when I'm finishing up one project, another client =20 > comes calling. I didn't have one moment this year where I needed to =20= > peruse a job board or try to drum up business. My clients =20 > constantly come to me alone and know I'm there for them when they =20 > need it. (Except when I decide to be "too busy" which isn't often) > > I would say the one thing I need to work on most is sacking away =20 > money for taxes and keeping my receipts in order. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > > On Jan 7, 2014 3:31 PM, "Carey Dissmore" wrote: > Last year was a real roller coaster. > Heck, its always a roller coaster, but last year was extreme. > Coming off a long slow December (which promptly filled with family =20 > and domestic stuff!) but booking a lot of stuff now that will keep =20 > me busy at least a couple of months. Good. > Need it. Even though I see a few all nighters coming near the end =20 > of the month. > > LOL and so it goes=85. > > carey > > > On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Rob Birnholz =20 > wrote: > > > It's always up and down. I'm getting my ass kicked with work =20 > right now, but check back in three months and I'll probably be one =20 > step away from standing on a corner with a sign "Will do Post =20 > Production for Food". Then just as things look bleakest the phone =20 > will ring again. Last year was the rockiest I've had since 2002, =20 > but I'm developing new clients and hope this year will be a bit =20 > smoother. > > > > Seems if the AE list were one cooperative we'd cumulatively be =20 > busy every day of the year. ;-) > > > > Rob Birnholz > > ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc. > > -digital design and post- > > Longwood, Florida > > www.absolutemotiongraphics.com > > > > "If you read a lot of books, you're considered well-read. > > But if you watch of lot of TV, you're not considered well-viewed." > > > > On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Mike Janson wrote: > > > >> is everybody busy but me? haven=92t had a decent gig since =20 > thxgiving :( > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to --Apple-Mail-6-662789175 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Thats interesting Greg. How do you manage to turn away clients confident = that will come back to you. I think most people in the freelance = situation take on too much work when it all comes at once for fear of = losing a client to someone else if they turn them away. I speak from = experience here too so its once bitten twice shy for = me.

Unlike Greg I make a fraction of what I did when = employed, but like Greg says the time I now have to take an active part = in my sons life is priceless and a sacrifice I'm happy to make. My wife = on the other hand is really tired of the roller coaster ride = :-\



On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint = wrote:

I had the most lucrative year in my career = last year. Not so much busy, but I made the highest in one year so far. = I learned to not keep myself super busy constantly, but instead make = sure I make enough money to be happy and comfortable and take some time = to enjoy things.

I'm probably the farthest from a = normal solo at-home freelancer. There are workweeks which I take days = off even though work is on the table, just to have some time for myself. = I even turned-off the light and took a one month hiatus to try and learn = game development some, while turning away projects. It felt weird to do = so, but I'm thankful I tried it out.  I feel I have more time off = since I became freelance than when I worked a 9-5 at an employer. And I = make more doing it.

I'm not trying to be braggy here. = I don't make anywhere near the yearly amount other listers on here make, = but my family is comfortable most of the time, and I have time to spend = with them, which is something I really value.

That = said, there are still down times which I really need money coming in and = can't find it sometimes, but they don't happen too often.

I have a client pool of about 7 companies and have been = lucky that in most cases, when I'm finishing up one project, another = client comes calling. I didn't have one moment this year where I needed = to peruse a job board or try to drum up business. My clients constantly = come to me alone and know I'm there for them when they need it. (Except = when I decide to be "too busy" which isn't often)

I = would say the one thing I need to work on most is sacking away money for = taxes and keeping my receipts in order.

///Greg = Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
= /321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
   

On Jan 7, 2014 3:31 PM, "Carey Dissmore" <carey@imugonline.com> = wrote:
= Last year was a real roller coaster.
Heck, its always a roller = coaster, but last year was extreme.
Coming off a long slow December = (which promptly filled with family and domestic stuff!) but booking a = lot of stuff now that will keep me busy at least a couple of months. = Good.
Need it. Even though I see a few all nighters coming near the = end of the month.

LOL and so it goes=85.

carey
=

On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Rob Birnholz <absolutemotion@birnholz.com> wrote:

> It's always up and down. I'm getting my ass = kicked with work right now, but check back in three months and I'll = probably be one step away from standing on a corner with a sign "Will do = Post Production for Food". Then just as things look bleakest the phone = will ring again. Last year was the rockiest I've had since 2002, but I'm = developing new clients and hope this year will be a bit smoother.
= >
> Seems if the AE list were one cooperative we'd = cumulatively be busy every day of the year. ;-)
>
> Rob = Birnholz
> ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc.
> -digital = design and post-
> Longwood, Florida
> www.absolutemotiongraphics.com
>
> = "If you read a lot of books, you're considered well-read.
> But = if you watch of lot of TV, you're not considered well-viewed."
= >
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Mike Janson wrote:
= >
>> is everybody busy but me? haven=92t had a decent gig = since thxgiving :(
>
>
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