Return-Path: Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com ([209.85.128.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5339595 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 01:16:52 +0100 Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 1so1117076qec.37 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:20:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MQNpWEgDK0X2Hlx2izYKBO28zniLoyLrZH9dQODsa6o=; b=Z1b8kyhMbLrg4AAp8SGCvKIJMPjzGuJ93RraFrFBMRdRJ4xPGPy4h0Qq3f0M+sllkO SkTC74RhYyC0Z24I6uY5Q3bldbbaSUHCwYt9T8N2J0KdYeG3VS/g4qdxuUUnoqX5IaTA uLleL/+y6CIgzqMrEjmsnA2UEjKZUZmS7SRExEFPjJjXkyarF1zdn48/PWKF+NUu+H55 NS6ZCFXJH/OF31HnnNqgBzL0NVn6A3QsnxgbhVEeC5WU9IZZJCuXg92G5uUKG4KQMwvw 0xJTyIqCa7v7GUOEs87nkJeNEyr1P8h5dy1SWF8yYoK8bcq8uhlZGt1ZQn+NT2mZ5Er8 3IFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.36.197 with SMTP id u5mr80481102qad.67.1389140427817; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:20:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:20:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] day rates including renting own equipment From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1c6eabe4a9c04ef6a752e --001a11c1c6eabe4a9c04ef6a752e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Honestly. I tell my clients I'm busy with other clients projects and cannot help. I do get busy and what am I supposed to do when I am? So when I do want time off "I'm busy". They don't "leave" me because I have other clients and keep busy with other projects. ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Jan 7, 2014 7:09 PM, "adam mercado" wrote: > Thats interesting Greg. How do you manage to turn away clients confident > that will come back to you. I think most people in the freelance situatio= n > take on too much work when it all comes at once for fear of losing a clie= nt > to someone else if they turn them away. I speak from experience here too = so > its once bitten twice shy for me. > > Unlike Greg I make a fraction of what I did when employed, but like Greg > says the time I now have to take an active part in my sons life is > priceless and a sacrifice I'm happy to make. My wife on the other hand is > really tired of the roller coaster ride :-\ > > > *Adam Mercado* > Influxx Media Production > Fullerton, CA > > Moving Images. For Business > *714=B0928=B09896* > http://www.influxx.com > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > > I had the most lucrative year in my career last year. Not so much busy, > but I made the highest in one year so far. I learned to not keep myself > super busy constantly, but instead make sure I make enough money to be > happy and comfortable and take some time to enjoy things. > > I'm probably the farthest from a normal solo at-home freelancer. There ar= e > workweeks which I take days off even though work is on the table, just to > have some time for myself. I even turned-off the light and took a one mon= th > hiatus to try and learn game development some, while turning away project= s. > It felt weird to do so, but I'm thankful I tried it out. I feel I have > more time off since I became freelance than when I worked a 9-5 at an > employer. And I make more doing it. > > I'm not trying to be braggy here. I don't make anywhere near the yearly > amount other listers on here make, but my family is comfortable most of t= he > time, and I have time to spend with them, which is something I really > value. > > That said, there are still down times which I really need money coming in > and can't find it sometimes, but they don't happen too often. > > I have a client pool of about 7 companies and have been lucky that in mos= t > cases, when I'm finishing up one project, another client comes calling. I > didn't have one moment this year where I needed to peruse a job board or > try to drum up business. My clients constantly come to me alone and know > I'm there for them when they need it. (Except when I decide to be "too > busy" which isn't often) > > I would say the one thing I need to work on most is sacking away money fo= r > taxes and keeping my receipts in order. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Jan 7, 2014 3:31 PM, "Carey Dissmore" wrote: > >> Last year was a real roller coaster. >> Heck, its always a roller coaster, but last year was extreme. >> Coming off a long slow December (which promptly filled with family and >> domestic stuff!) but booking a lot of stuff now that will keep me busy a= t >> least a couple of months. Good. >> Need it. Even though I see a few all nighters coming near the end of the >> month. >> >> LOL and so it goes=85. >> >> carey >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Rob Birnholz >> wrote: >> >> > It's always up and down. I'm getting my ass kicked with work right now= , >> but check back in three months and I'll probably be one step away from >> standing on a corner with a sign "Will do Post Production for Food". The= n >> just as things look bleakest the phone will ring again. Last year was th= e >> rockiest I've had since 2002, but I'm developing new clients and hope th= is >> year will be a bit smoother. >> > >> > Seems if the AE list were one cooperative we'd cumulatively be busy >> every day of the year. ;-) >> > >> > Rob Birnholz >> > ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc. >> > -digital design and post- >> > Longwood, Florida >> > www.absolutemotiongraphics.com >> > >> > "If you read a lot of books, you're considered well-read. >> > But if you watch of lot of TV, you're not considered well-viewed." >> > >> > On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Mike Janson wrote: >> > >> >> is everybody busy but me? haven=92t had a decent gig since thxgiving = :( >> > >> > >> > +---End of message---+ >> > To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > --001a11c1c6eabe4a9c04ef6a752e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Honestly. I tell my clients I'm busy with other clients = projects and cannot help.=A0 I do get busy and what am I supposed to do whe= n I am?=A0=A0 So when I do want time off "I'm busy".=A0 They = don't "leave" me because I have other clients and keep busy w= ith other projects.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
=A0=A0=A0

On Jan 7, 2014 7:09 PM, "adam mercado"= <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
Thats interesting Greg. How do you manage to turn away clients confident th= at will come back to you. I think most people in the freelance situation ta= ke on too much work when it all comes at once for fear of losing a client t= o someone else if they turn them away. I speak from experience here too so = its once bitten twice shy for me.

Unlike Greg I make a fraction of what I did when employed, b= ut like Greg says the time I now have to take an active part in my sons lif= e is priceless and a sacrifice I'm happy to make. My wife on the other = hand is really tired of the roller coaster ride :-\


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton,= CA

Moving Images. For Business
714= =B0928=B09896

On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint wrote:

I had the most lucrative ye= ar in my career last year. Not so much busy, but I made the highest in one = year so far. I learned to not keep myself super busy constantly, but instea= d make sure I make enough money to be happy and comfortable and take some t= ime to enjoy things.

I'm probably the farthest from a normal solo at-home fre= elancer. There are workweeks which I take days off even though work is on t= he table, just to have some time for myself. I even turned-off the light an= d took a one month hiatus to try and learn game development some, while tur= ning away projects. It felt weird to do so, but I'm thankful I tried it= out.=A0 I feel I have more time off since I became freelance than when I w= orked a 9-5 at an employer. And I make more doing it.

I'm not trying to be braggy here. I don't make anywh= ere near the yearly amount other listers on here make, but my family is com= fortable most of the time, and I have time to spend with them, which is som= ething I really value.

That said, there are still down times which I really need mo= ney coming in and can't find it sometimes, but they don't happen to= o often.

I have a client pool of about 7 companies and h= ave been lucky that in most cases, when I'm finishing up one project, a= nother client comes calling. I didn't have one moment this year where I= needed to peruse a job board or try to drum up business. My clients consta= ntly come to me alone and know I'm there for them when they need it. (E= xcept when I decide to be "too busy" which isn't often)

I would say the one thing I need to work on most is sacking = away money for taxes and keeping my receipts in order.

/= //Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
=A0=A0=A0

On Jan 7, 2014= 3:31 PM, "Carey Dissmore" <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:
Last year was a real roller coaster.
Heck, its always a roller coaster= , but last year was extreme.
Coming off a long slow December (which pro= mptly filled with family and domestic stuff!) but booking a lot of stuff no= w that will keep me busy at least a couple of months. Good.
Need it. Even though I see a few all nighters coming near the end of the m= onth.

LOL and so it goes=85.

carey


On Jan 7= , 2014, at 12:08 PM, Rob Birnholz <absolutemotion@birnholz.com> wrote:

> It's always up and down. I'm getting my ass kicked with = work right now, but check back in three months and I'll probably be one= step away from standing on a corner with a sign "Will do Post Product= ion for Food". Then just as things look bleakest the phone will ring a= gain. Last year was the rockiest I've had since 2002, but I'm devel= oping new clients and hope this year will be a bit smoother.
>
> Seems if the AE list were one cooperative we'd cumulativ= ely be busy every day of the year. ;-)
>
> Rob Birnholz
&= gt; ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc.
> -digital design and post-
> Longwood, Florida
> www.absolutemotiongraphics.com
>
&= gt; "If you read a lot of books, you're considered well-read.
= > But if you watch of lot of TV, you're not considered well-viewed.&= quot;
>
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Mike Janson wrote:
>
= >> is everybody busy but me? haven=92t had a decent gig since thxgivi= ng :(
>
>
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