Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.119] (HELO homiemail-a7.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5339663 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 02:28:05 +0100 Received: from homiemail-a7.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a7.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEBE25C06A for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:31:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=wdRI75hKKBQUdzdaKVblLJFj1nM= ; b=Db9t5MSh38F9V1QPswjB3mlY7O5RlVJGLtAIx+uwNWMIJMXblfWhhAN+fejN XmvUKeybEK837pSw11RJxHiva+HmAnYFDC5IdsnMXfAVoD109y5g6Ru+JIVBDfk/ dYSw31xHyOQI9V4lDjbvuBcIsoSY4Vy24fUsJnF076LbhPA= Received: from [192.168.0.14] (cpe-98-148-138-81.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.138.81]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a7.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0481525C061 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:31:39 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-668122392 Message-Id: From: adam mercado Subject: Re: [AE] day rates including renting own equipment Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:31:38 -0800 To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-8-668122392 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed well thats a nice place to be in, in all sincerity and not facetious. =20= So many clients I've encountered, especially on the agency side, =20 expect you to give them your unwavering attention at all times. When =20 working on their projects you dont mention any other clients, =20 punishable by death. The reality is when I'm juggling several =20 projects at once its impossible to focus on any one project. =20 Especially when revisions come into play. Geez, they expect me to be =20 sitting around idle just waiting to jump on their last minute =20 changes. "What do you mean the past 3 days you've been working on =20 something else...we need you to finish this NOW!" anyhoo, good for you to be in that position and have that =20 relationship with them. Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > Honestly. I tell my clients I'm busy with other clients projects =20 > and cannot help. I do get busy and what am I supposed to do when I =20= > am? So when I do want time off "I'm busy". They don't "leave" me =20= > because I have other clients and keep busy with other projects. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > > On Jan 7, 2014 7:09 PM, "adam mercado" wrote: > Thats interesting Greg. How do you manage to turn away clients =20 > confident that will come back to you. I think most people in the =20 > freelance situation take on too much work when it all comes at once =20= > for fear of losing a client to someone else if they turn them away. =20= > I speak from experience here too so its once bitten twice shy for me. > > Unlike Greg I make a fraction of what I did when employed, but like =20= > Greg says the time I now have to take an active part in my sons =20 > life is priceless and a sacrifice I'm happy to make. My wife on the =20= > other hand is really tired of the roller coaster ride :-\ > > > Adam Mercado > Influxx Media Production > Fullerton, CA > > Moving Images. For Business > 714=B0928=B09896 > http://www.influxx.com > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > >> I had the most lucrative year in my career last year. Not so much =20 >> busy, but I made the highest in one year so far. I learned to not =20 >> keep myself super busy constantly, but instead make sure I make =20 >> enough money to be happy and comfortable and take some time to =20 >> enjoy things. >> >> I'm probably the farthest from a normal solo at-home freelancer. =20 >> There are workweeks which I take days off even though work is on =20 >> the table, just to have some time for myself. I even turned-off =20 >> the light and took a one month hiatus to try and learn game =20 >> development some, while turning away projects. It felt weird to do =20= >> so, but I'm thankful I tried it out. I feel I have more time off =20 >> since I became freelance than when I worked a 9-5 at an employer. =20 >> And I make more doing it. >> >> I'm not trying to be braggy here. I don't make anywhere near the =20 >> yearly amount other listers on here make, but my family is =20 >> comfortable most of the time, and I have time to spend with them, =20 >> which is something I really value. >> >> That said, there are still down times which I really need money =20 >> coming in and can't find it sometimes, but they don't happen too =20 >> often. >> >> I have a client pool of about 7 companies and have been lucky that =20= >> in most cases, when I'm finishing up one project, another client =20 >> comes calling. I didn't have one moment this year where I needed =20 >> to peruse a job board or try to drum up business. My clients =20 >> constantly come to me alone and know I'm there for them when they =20 >> need it. (Except when I decide to be "too busy" which isn't often) >> >> I would say the one thing I need to work on most is sacking away =20 >> money for taxes and keeping my receipts in order. >> >> ///Greg Balint >> //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >> /321.514.4839 >> delRAZOR.com/ >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2014 3:31 PM, "Carey Dissmore" =20 >> wrote: >> Last year was a real roller coaster. >> Heck, its always a roller coaster, but last year was extreme. >> Coming off a long slow December (which promptly filled with family =20= >> and domestic stuff!) but booking a lot of stuff now that will keep =20= >> me busy at least a couple of months. Good. >> Need it. Even though I see a few all nighters coming near the end =20 >> of the month. >> >> LOL and so it goes=85. >> >> carey >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Rob Birnholz =20 >> wrote: >> >> > It's always up and down. I'm getting my ass kicked with work =20 >> right now, but check back in three months and I'll probably be one =20= >> step away from standing on a corner with a sign "Will do Post =20 >> Production for Food". Then just as things look bleakest the phone =20 >> will ring again. Last year was the rockiest I've had since 2002, =20 >> but I'm developing new clients and hope this year will be a bit =20 >> smoother. >> > >> > Seems if the AE list were one cooperative we'd cumulatively be =20 >> busy every day of the year. ;-) >> > >> > Rob Birnholz >> > ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc. >> > -digital design and post- >> > Longwood, Florida >> > www.absolutemotiongraphics.com >> > >> > "If you read a lot of books, you're considered well-read. >> > But if you watch of lot of TV, you're not considered well-viewed." >> > >> > On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Mike Janson wrote: >> > >> >> is everybody busy but me? haven=92t had a decent gig since =20 >> thxgiving :( >> > >> > >> > +---End of message---+ >> > To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to > --Apple-Mail-8-668122392 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 well thats a nice place to be in, in all sincerity and not facetious. So = many clients I've encountered, especially on the agency side, expect you = to give them your unwavering attention at all times. When working on = their projects you dont mention any other clients, punishable by death. = The reality is when I'm juggling several projects at once its impossible = to focus on any one project. Especially when revisions come into play. = Geez, they expect me to be sitting around idle just waiting to jump on = their last minute changes. "What do you  mean the past 3 days = you've been working on something else...we need you to finish this = NOW!"

anyhoo, good for you to be in that position and = have that relationship with them.



On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Greg Balint = wrote:

Honestly. I tell my clients I'm busy with = other clients projects and cannot help.  I do get busy and what am = I supposed to do when I am?   So when I do want time off "I'm = busy".  They don't "leave" me because I have other clients and keep = busy with other projects.

///Greg Balint
//Art = Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
= delRAZOR.com/
   

On = Jan 7, 2014 7:09 PM, "adam mercado" <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
Thats interesting Greg. How do you = manage to turn away clients confident that will come back to you. I = think most people in the freelance situation take on too much work when = it all comes at once for fear of losing a client to someone else if they = turn them away. I speak from experience here too so its once bitten = twice shy for me.

Unlike Greg I make a fraction of = what I did when employed, but like Greg says the time I now have to take = an active part in my sons life is priceless and a sacrifice I'm happy to = make. My wife on the other hand is really tired of the roller coaster = ride :-\


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media = Production
Fullerton, CA

Moving = Images. For Business
714=B0928=B09896
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On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint = wrote:

I had the most = lucrative year in my career last year. Not so much busy, but I made the = highest in one year so far. I learned to not keep myself super busy = constantly, but instead make sure I make enough money to be happy and = comfortable and take some time to enjoy things.

I'm = probably the farthest from a normal solo at-home freelancer. There are = workweeks which I take days off even though work is on the table, just = to have some time for myself. I even turned-off the light and took a one = month hiatus to try and learn game development some, while turning away = projects. It felt weird to do so, but I'm thankful I tried it out.  = I feel I have more time off since I became freelance than when I worked = a 9-5 at an employer. And I make more doing it.

I'm = not trying to be braggy here. I don't make anywhere near the yearly = amount other listers on here make, but my family is comfortable most of = the time, and I have time to spend with them, which is something I = really value.

That said, there are still down times = which I really need money coming in and can't find it sometimes, but = they don't happen too often.

I have a client pool of = about 7 companies and have been lucky that in most cases, when I'm = finishing up one project, another client comes calling. I didn't have = one moment this year where I needed to peruse a job board or try to drum = up business. My clients constantly come to me alone and know I'm there = for them when they need it. (Except when I decide to be "too busy" which = isn't often)

I would say the one thing I need to work = on most is sacking away money for taxes and keeping my receipts in = order.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion = Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
=    

On Jan 7, 2014 3:31 = PM, "Carey Dissmore" <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:
Last year was a = real roller coaster.
Heck, its always a roller coaster, but last = year was extreme.
Coming off a long slow December (which promptly = filled with family and domestic stuff!) but booking a lot of stuff now = that will keep me busy at least a couple of months. Good.
Need it. = Even though I see a few all nighters coming near the end of the = month.

LOL and so it goes=85.

carey


On = Jan 7, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Rob Birnholz <absolutemotion@birnholz.com> wrote:

= > It's always up and down. I'm getting my ass kicked with work right = now, but check back in three months and I'll probably be one step away = from standing on a corner with a sign "Will do Post Production for = Food". Then just as things look bleakest the phone will ring again. Last = year was the rockiest I've had since 2002, but I'm developing new = clients and hope this year will be a bit smoother.
>
> = Seems if the AE list were one cooperative we'd cumulatively be busy = every day of the year. ;-)
>
> Rob Birnholz
> = ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc.
> -digital design and post-
= > Longwood, Florida
> www.absolutemotiongraphics.com
>
> = "If you read a lot of books, you're considered well-read.
> But = if you watch of lot of TV, you're not considered well-viewed."
= >
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Mike Janson wrote:
= >
>> is everybody busy but me? haven=92t had a decent gig = since thxgiving :(
>
>
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