Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f195.google.com ([209.85.128.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5343864 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:57:35 +0100 Received: by mail-ve0-f195.google.com with SMTP id c14so864520vea.10 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 03:01:17 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tR/jJ77c5IHwp1xycaPeWSy8vneuTkBzV4obgXtIv9o=; b=kaW2ZRQk9INQT68gfNiDXkhwIdFm0Od31+hUDOPT+ICWMWrezwkymD6o/GyGgiN1yZ rWJ86+3gFpXPmufq7JVhVJenvguXk8Y7SChMuUmdYdlUkudzoYpQdm64TOdtJnyQtUey wU1VtgVka+6fMWBMzi1KEVhqkv71eywAUz3TPwGLZDOE4cDsEqSvFjHMu+r6P6FQK5Ya +Ofw2S6fQhccHPjmupyWYzr6O7oJZ2U2jOiTar6o+162YCpBhqbZO1r+wrfISk9B76WW dHGa597ZZAmTkAaggFd77uGRw4gujXE0yLh/ofdX/V9xg+Flsa11RUmrjZCVe3TdIg9m L3Hg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkC1YmzlXV39/lgp3+f2QJid9RDplVX3uRgyc1xaODFcJTSuoIrMINpZQYdc4a2UqmzQ0nd MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.113.97 with SMTP id ix1mr9927550vdb.9.1389438077023; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 03:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.200.101 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 03:01:16 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [80.216.225.2] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 12:01:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Methods of creating illustrative assets and artwork for animations From: Peder Norrby To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a62704d23804efafc343 --bcaec548a62704d23804efafc343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anders, I used a wacom long ago and remember there was something like mouse emulation mode that didn't get full resolution, is it installed properly and recognised by the apps? I can't help much because I don't remember but perhaps someone else here knows this. If you're just getting screen resolution then that could explain why lines get jaggy. Peder Norrby / Trapcode On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Anders Sundstedt wr= ote: > Thanks everyone Evan, Blazej, Greg and Teddy. I forgot to mention I do > have a wacom 2 or 3, not sure as I am not at my desk right now. The reaso= n > I don't draw with it is that I have not figured out a way to get smooth, > natural lines, without being jaggy? When I draw with pencil on paper or > with finger on an ipad, I get perfect smooth lines. What is the secret? > > > Kind Regards, > > Anders > > Anders Sundstedt | Director | Animator | Illustrator > After Effects Artist | Motion Designer > M.Sc. Media Technology & Visualization > e: anders@sundstedt.co.uk > t: +44 141 886 2037 <+44%20141%20886%202037> | m: +44 7531 800 711<+44%20= 7531%20800%20711> > a: 3/2 8 Whimbrel Wynd | Glasgow | PA4 8TJ | UK > Twitter: @sundstedt & @AfterEffectsArt > Vimeo Channel: sundstedt > LinkedIn: Anders Sundstedt > Web: www.sundstedt.co.uk > > On 10 Jan 2014, at 14:10, "Greg Balint" wrote: > > I would reccomend trying out a drawing tablet if you haven't yet. Its the > closest analog to digital for this type of work. > > I bought a Monoproce tablet a little whole back and it has been great for > these situations. Background painting is a breeze and more intuitive whil= e > character creation can come faster with the addition of multiple undo > states, etc. > > Some will say they aren't as good as Wacom tablets, which may be true, bu= t > I've used both this monoprice one and an intuos and can't really find muc= h > difference in daily usage. > > For reference, the monoprice tablets are much cheaper, but they do have > some oddities compared to wacom, like batteries in the pen, but it would = be > a good starting point tonseenif you like the tool. > > Here's their list of tablets. > > http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=3D108&cp_id=3D10841 > > And here's the one I got. > > > http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=3D108&cp_id=3D10841&cs_id=3D1084102= &p_id=3D6814&seq=3D1&format=3D2 > > The hotkey buttons on that one help out a lot with things like holding > down alt/control or space bar to pan around. It's all customizable throug= h > their drivers. > > It has compatibility with OS X, but not sure about the super latest > versions. I use it on Windows 7 just fine here. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Jan 10, 2014 8:41 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" wrote= : > >> Hi all AE Mail list followers, >> >> It=92s been very silent on this mail list yesterday and today so I >> thought I would contribute with a new discussion. >> >> I am looking to find alternative, perhaps more efficient was of >> producing original from scratch made artwork for my animated cartoon sty= le >> videos (2D or 2.5D). >> >> Currently, I have 3 alternative ways (for creating 2D assets): >> >> 1. Draw required artwork (separated if to use as layers) on paper using >> pen =96> Scan =96> Touch up in IL =96> Export .PSD to PS =96> Color in P= S, polish >> add any textures etc. =96> Save .PSD for AE =96> Import to AE =96> Use a= s a comp >> or separate layers =96> Animate. >> >> 2. Draw layers using Path/Shape in PS using Pen Tool and Direct Select >> Tool =96> Import PS into AE. (Question: When I draw it fills the drawn p= ath >> automatically, how do I draw it all first and then fill after drawn >> instead?) >> >> 3. Draw on SketchUp on iPad =96> Import into Illustrator =96> Export to= PS >> =96> Animate in AE. >> >> Now, I don=92t know which is the fastest, but I don=92t think it=92s op= tion >> 3, as it=92s a bit limited. >> >> I have now shared some of my techniques for creating artwork for my >> animations, including background artwork, characters and props/objects. >> >> Please would you suggest better/easier/more efficient or more fun ways >> that used in your production (or ways I could improve any of the 3 ways >> listed above, that you have experience of (I don=92t use stock artwork s= o I >> am not interested in that option). >> >> I would also love to know what you use for storyboarding (even if just >> sketchy line drawings / stick figure). I have been using pen and paper >> mainly. What do you or your clients use? >> >> P.S. I am looking for more freelance work in 2014 so if you are looking >> for an animated web video / explainer / demo video of a more illustrativ= e / >> cartoon style, please do feel free to get in touch to discuss your proje= ct. >> I can do a video from start to finish, or only artwork or animation if y= ou >> prefer). >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Anders >> >> Anders Sundstedt | Director | Animator | Illustrator >> After Effects Artist | Motion Designer >> M.Sc. Media Technology & Visualization >> e: anders@sundstedt.co.uk >> t: +44 141 886 2037 | m: +44 7531 800 711 >> a: 3/2 8 Whimbrel Wynd | Glasgow | PA4 8TJ | UK >> Twitter: @sundstedt & @AfterEffectsArt >> Vimeo Channel: sundstedt >> LinkedIn: Anders Sundstedt >> Web: www.sundstedt.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --bcaec548a62704d23804efafc343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anders, I used a wacom long ago and remember there was som= ething like mouse emulation mode that didn't get full resolution, is it= installed properly and recognised by the apps? I can't help much becau= se I don't remember but perhaps someone else here knows this. If you= 9;re just getting screen resolution then that could explain why lines get j= aggy.

Peder Norrby / Trapcode


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Ander= s Sundstedt <sundstedt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks everyone Evan,= Blazej, Greg and Teddy. I forgot to mention I do have a wacom 2 or 3, not = sure as I am not at my desk right now. The reason I don't draw with it = is that I have not figured out a way to get smooth, natural lines, without = being jaggy? When I draw with pencil on paper or with finger on an ipad, I = get perfect smooth lines. What is the secret?


Kind Regards,

Anders
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On 10 Jan 2014, at 14:10, "Greg Balint&= quot; <del= razoraelist@gmail.com> wrote:

I would reccomend t= rying out a drawing tablet if you haven't yet. Its the closest analog t= o digital for this type of work.

I bought a Monoproce tablet a little whole back and it has b= een great for these situations. Background painting is a breeze and more in= tuitive while character creation can come faster with the addition of multi= ple undo states, etc.

Some will say they aren't as good as Wacom tablets, whic= h may be true, but I've used both this monoprice one and an intuos and = can't really find much difference in daily usage.

For reference, the monoprice tablets are much cheaper, but t= hey do have some oddities compared to wacom, like batteries in the pen, but= it would be a good starting point tonseenif you like the tool.

Here's their list of tablets.=A0

http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=3D1= 08&cp_id=3D10841

And here's the one I got.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=3D108&cp_id= =3D10841&cs_id=3D1084102&p_id=3D6814&seq=3D1&format=3D2=

The hotkey buttons on that one help out a lot with things li= ke holding down alt/control or space bar to pan around. It's all custom= izable through their drivers.

It has compatibility with OS X, but not sure about the super= latest versions. I use it on Windows 7 just fine here.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.= 514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Jan 10, 2014 8:41 AM, "Anders Sundstedt&= quot; <sundst= edt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi=20 all AE Mail list followers,
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It=92s=20 been very silent on this mail list yesterday and today so I thought I would= =20 contribute with a new discussion.
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I=20 am looking to find alternative, perhaps more efficient was of producing ori= ginal=20 from scratch made artwork for my animated cartoon style videos (2D or 2.5D)= .=20
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Currently,=20 I have 3 alternative ways (for creating 2D assets):
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1.=20 Draw required artwork (separated if to use as layers) on paper using pen = =96>=20 Scan =96> Touch up in IL =96> Export .PSD to PS =96> Color in PS, = polish add=20 any textures etc. =96> Save .PSD for AE =96> Import to AE =96> Use= as a comp=20 or separate layers =96> Animate.
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2.=20 Draw layers using Path/Shape in PS using Pen Tool and Direct Select Tool = =96>=20 Import PS into AE. (Question: When I draw it fills the drawn path automatic= ally,=20 how do I draw it all first and then fill after drawn instead?)
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3.=20 Draw on SketchUp on iPad =96> Import into Illustrator =96> Export to = PS =96>=20 Animate in AE.
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Now,=20 I don=92t know which is the fastest, but I don=92t think it=92s option 3, a= s it=92s a=20 bit limited.
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I=20 have now shared some of my techniques for creating artwork for my animation= s,=20 including background artwork, characters and props/objects.
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Please=20 would you suggest better/easier/more efficient or more fun ways that used i= n=20 your production (or ways I could improve any of the 3 ways listed above, th= at=20 you have experience of (I don=92t use stock artwork so I am not interested = in that=20 option).
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I=20 would also love to know what you use for storyboarding (even if just sketch= y=20 line drawings / stick figure). I have been using pen and paper mainly. What= do=20 you or your clients use?
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P.S.=20 I am looking for more freelance work in 2014 so if you are looking for an= =20 animated web video / explainer / demo video of a more illustrative / cartoo= n=20 style, please do feel free to get in touch to discuss your project. I can d= o a=20 video from start to finish, or only artwork or animation if you=20 prefer).
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Kind Regards,

Anders

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