Return-Path: Received: from mail-qe0-f43.google.com ([209.85.128.43] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5346987 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:00:11 +0100 Received: by mail-qe0-f43.google.com with SMTP id nc12so964294qeb.30 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:04:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HtM8Sg+jz9DsFckpwRitPBAUk6vp7RW+U5EtpJS0aII=; b=DjDaLcN+KPpaUxxLB32mzZycTgkStSmCpPv/rlDK6sNEB8azSrfemi7sNDo0GmLX56 PPlx+S8cRdfS+31MXoelwr4c4zUbH08zjkBUd8zOtSxNqfPjUq8OKCdFaJH95Y0F4g1T +77RPK4NMJEQLX4WoiKjrdJ+VygZFI0Tam+A4dEyhcEseeJFXHfxM48kTxYja+T4i0Kt f34zDGSeJ6nGmCeB5EwNv5bdhCBoJ4/+vVeO8lny/R2VbHdmP9U636bUvlWJHvqmqkLq tsQwnKO7e/bDdeLyhCZUYHnufArRVS1OwHlTbPhCt6VL18PwMri7NUF35fgiCpNIFWEA pjxQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.27.234 with SMTP id w10mr4388792qeg.22.1389791038385; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:03:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:03:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Thoughts on ultra-high resolution From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6a8d427b3de04f001f1be --047d7bd6a8d427b3de04f001f1be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick question. Sorry it's not on the path to an exact solution, but... If it's a "wall" type setup, that means the intended audience is going to be somewhat farther back from the displays, right? What size displays are we talking? Inches wise? Wouldn't it be worthless to work in 4k if the user will be so far away as to not even notice the clarity of that resolution? ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Jan 15, 2014 4:49 AM, "Chris Zwar" wrote: > Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=85 > > A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K > TVs. Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of = 4K > TVs. The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4K > stream, so the pixels add up very quickly. > > 4K is 3840 x 2160. > > If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the > overall canvas would be 19,200 x 8640. I think the actual design was for > even more, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels). > > I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolution in > any software package. I've had one After Effects project that was about > 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x 3K, and I > really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects. However I don't > think any compositing package - or even software package - would be much > fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of pixels. > > Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing back > to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to > approach the project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. And > that's what we would normally do - and often do when the delivery > resolution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing exercise > is to have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=85 > > So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work > with successfully? If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs would > it be possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K? > > > -Chris > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --047d7bd6a8d427b3de04f001f1be Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just a quick question. Sorry it's not on the path to an = exact solution, but...

If it's a "wall" type setup, that means the in= tended audience is going to be somewhat farther back from the displays, rig= ht?

What size displays are we talking? Inches wise?

Wouldn't it be worthless to work in 4k if the user will = be so far away as to not even notice the clarity of that resolution?

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
=A0=A0=A0

On Jan 15, 2014 4:49 AM, "Chris Zwar" = <chris@chriszwar.com> wrot= e:
Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=85

A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K TVs= . =A0Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of= 4K TVs. =A0The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4= K stream, so the pixels add up very quickly.

4K is 3840 x 2160.

If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the overall= canvas would be 19,200 x 8640. =A0I think the actual design was for even m= ore, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels).

I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolutio= n in any software package. =A0I've had one After Effects project that w= as about 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x = 3K, and I really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects. =A0H= owever I don't think any compositing package - or even software package= - would be much fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of= pixels.

Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing bac= k to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to a= pproach the project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. =A0And = that's what we would normally do - and often do when the delivery resol= ution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing exercise is to = have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=85

So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work wi= th successfully? =A0If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs would i= t be possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K?


-Chris
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