Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f169.google.com ([209.85.192.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5347011 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:30:43 +0100 Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id v10so1117784pde.28 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:34:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=jZ4ljTpX6no8LHFDwRkymcmcqOFHAw5HG0Wai7DMOE4=; b=HIjf1SUerQyeNswcg7PRCSDgUdPokqU/QggQdi1HX254j0eEklVjVAJ4b6WxUweq9o QyuS5aaGnOxAC7rpQyQVLM6zMrrJ6ge/7U8f5KNzB0FkKBt9Iid88he/oWEU4HzPg8eY 6bRVfu1SNcjOywHiVxc6R1tI/MbBE55fOg5MB3cBITfAt3Xj5MjHMIGeFWZ+1VsTRTyh rogfVV6RKiXslB7OHc1JrfHcMlJF7BSARhtomLQYmeBz+c0271X8138axhHw3h/sl8N1 S+O7IliUfyOus3TdLGoPwhzIMd2HeJ8jhEwmzg82SJXcRe6eo7HGBWnETly2IlSdp/2x kNvA== X-Received: by 10.66.150.69 with SMTP id ug5mr2729636pab.55.1389792871830; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:34:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [10.0.1.4] (24-205-73-199.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com. [24.205.73.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pe3sm8178948pbc.23.2014.01.15.05.34.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:34:30 -0800 (PST) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4B172358-E43E-4729-8BF7-BC13F6E6975C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) From: Michael Kedor Subject: Re: [AE] Thoughts on ultra-high resolution Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:34:28 -0800 To: After Effects Mail List --Apple-Mail-4B172358-E43E-4729-8BF7-BC13F6E6975C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The University of California - Irvine has a setup much bigger than this call= ed Hiperwall. It might be worth it to reach out to them.=20 http://hiperwall.calit2.uci.edu/?q=3Dnode/1 Sent from iKedor mini On Jan 15, 2014, at 1:47, Chris Zwar wrote: Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=E2=80=A6 A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K TVs.= Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of 4K TVs.= The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4K stream, s= o the pixels add up very quickly. 4K is 3840 x 2160. If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the overall c= anvas would be 19,200 x 8640. I think the actual design was for even more, I= think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels). I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolution in any s= oftware package. I've had one After Effects project that was about 10K x 10= 80, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x 3K, and I really would= n't want to go much bigger in After Effects. However I don't think any comp= ositing package - or even software package - would be much fun working with p= rojects in then 10's of thousands of pixels. Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing back to 2= 0 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to approach the= project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. And that's what we= would normally do - and often do when the delivery resolution gets too high= - but the whole point of this marketing exercise is to have each TV playing= back a full res 4K stream=E2=80=A6 So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work wit= h successfully? If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs would it be= possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K? -Chris +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to --Apple-Mail-4B172358-E43E-4729-8BF7-BC13F6E6975C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The University of California - Irvine h= as a setup much bigger than this called Hiperwall. It might be worth it to r= each out to them. 


On Jan 15, 2014, at 1:47, Chris Z= war <chris@chriszwar.com> w= rote:

Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=E2=80= =A6

A marketing agency has approached us wi= th a concept for a display of 4K TVs.  Stripping away the creative it's= basically a video wall made up of 4K TVs.  The problem is that they wa= nt each TV to be displaying a full 4K stream, so the pixels add up very quic= kly.

4K is 3840 x 2160.

If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down= , the overall canvas would be 19,200 x 8640.  I think the actual design= was for even more, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels).

I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high r= esolution in any software package.  I've had one After Effects project t= hat was about 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x 3= K, and I really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects.  Howe= ver I don't think any compositing package - or even software package - would= be much fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of pixels.

Apart from the playback issues (don't know how t= hey plan on playing back to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm= not sure how to approach the project without doing it at a lower res and sc= aling up.  And that's what we would normally do - and often do when the= delivery resolution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing e= xercise is to have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=E2=80=A6=

So I am wondering what are the largest resolution= s that people here work with successfully?  If we had access to a few g= igapixel photographs would it be possible to do a simple slideshow type thin= g at 20 or 30K?


-Chris
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