Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5347291 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:38:23 +0100 Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id e16so1197171qcx.35 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:42:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ocdY7dOEvS53Um4cM3JVncE5KFh+sa6Cs9K9AQC7/6M=; b=yaMvj7YlVKaD/LnGZYQ+oorqjPL8UKzSsCzCEsd4ln8NOAZeTvy2JBD8Nf/f+ZLhw2 O/pXhcS2tbHIGNs5eEExaKdXycxnFuiJdTr2Eb+TNosawI59jDWt7qc8HkhlwqQH/Ycb hAcZB79N3bCrcDpa7VWDUWrcWn4IucLhF4VDcKPMlNTumthzoCL12d3dPah56p639OAu RleyR5+HbBv1SmD7Ei4XzxT/hL3NEmXovl7n/rWxtnrXXU8Q8Dc8vVpHfZ9EiRen0VVH Xj+0161lXN7d0qpt4EQY+UWiaH+j9nc5rtimNmiiVeIuvkZsZdMxC/fFwFZALUCVbw11 7sSw== X-Received: by 10.229.84.201 with SMTP id k9mr6419379qcl.18.1389804133208; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:42:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.216.132 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:41:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:41:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Thoughts on ultra-high resolution To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134536eaadadb04f004fd4a --001a1134536eaadadb04f004fd4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry if this is a dumb idea, but what's stopping you from working on 20 individual 4K projects and then syncing them up after the fact? Seems to me breaking it into chunks is the answer. And that way if one render fails or you need to tweak a single video you're not stuck re-rendering the whole project. Either that or buy 5 new mac pros for $10k a pop and have them each driving four displays, live. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Chris Zwar wrote: > Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=85 > > A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K > TVs. Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of = 4K > TVs. The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4K > stream, so the pixels add up very quickly. > > 4K is 3840 x 2160. > > If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the > overall canvas would be 19,200 x 8640. I think the actual design was for > even more, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels). > > I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolution in > any software package. I've had one After Effects project that was about > 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x 3K, and I > really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects. However I don't > think any compositing package - or even software package - would be much > fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of pixels. > > Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing back > to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to > approach the project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. And > that's what we would normally do - and often do when the delivery > resolution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing exercise > is to have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=85 > > So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work > with successfully? If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs would > it be possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K? > > > -Chris > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --=20 _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --001a1134536eaadadb04f004fd4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry if this is a dumb idea, but what's stopping you = from working on 20 individual 4K projects and then syncing them up after th= e fact? Seems to me breaking it into chunks is the answer. And that way if = one render fails or you need to tweak a single video you're not stuck r= e-rendering the whole project.

Either that or buy 5 new mac pros for $10k a pop and have th= em each driving four displays, live.
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Chris Z= war <chris@chriszwar.com> wrote:
Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=85=

A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K TVs= . =A0Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of= 4K TVs. =A0The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4= K stream, so the pixels add up very quickly.

4K is 3840 x 2160.

If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the overall= canvas would be 19,200 x 8640. =A0I think the actual design was for even m= ore, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels).

I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolutio= n in any software package. =A0I've had one After Effects project that w= as about 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x = 3K, and I really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects. =A0H= owever I don't think any compositing package - or even software package= - would be much fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of= pixels.

Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing bac= k to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to a= pproach the project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. =A0And = that's what we would normally do - and often do when the delivery resol= ution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing exercise is to = have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=85

So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work wi= th successfully? =A0If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs would i= t be possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K?


-Chris
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