Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.216.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5347319 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:51:31 +0100 Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ii20so1094896qab.4 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fBYUs7BHJ9OI+XEdJlN7e2gkYnQ3LVWU//jbFNeIqOQ=; b=BuyuOid/RicL8S9NcQmiLO+2V9l3o9Xk3GBbbmaOsboLlIrG4qWt0i2TzKBR4O75gd V82barowy/Fkb1WCGQp5suF1RVxOfwkQ6hXLwbKm5NQhnkO0XHhSwBtmMo6g/vAkDjB8 sShgUXdrhJNuD+gsitgSqYiRADkjdKkPI8G0guPPWdMbRQ228vwS3JPvJjwwi/QuZkQl xViHI4JfjXBpRZf+RaC4u+NWh69S2I3aXTJts7SSlJkdXWQPMRtwf0PYE4xVY86dOH2N vqvT9VOK5QBP+/3DjPnuUjGkpOXo6967rdrATTGTHS8YqMvBjh9SORVy4ncjNr1+Vz3f N+TQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.51.196 with SMTP id e4mr6486677qag.16.1389804922097; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.147.139 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:55:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Thoughts on ultra-high resolution From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c29e50b0568804f0052cb0 --001a11c29e50b0568804f0052cb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Considering it's a "wall" format.. the client probably wants content that will span across and animate across all screens continuously.. This would probably get pretty hard to design for if only one 4k screen could be designed at a time. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Sorry if this is a dumb idea, but what's stopping you from working on 20 > individual 4K projects and then syncing them up after the fact? Seems to = me > breaking it into chunks is the answer. And that way if one render fails o= r > you need to tweak a single video you're not stuck re-rendering the whole > project. > > Either that or buy 5 new mac pros for $10k a pop and have them each > driving four displays, live. > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Chris Zwar wrote: > >> Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=85 >> >> A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K >> TVs. Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of= 4K >> TVs. The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4K >> stream, so the pixels add up very quickly. >> >> 4K is 3840 x 2160. >> >> If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the >> overall canvas would be 19,200 x 8640. I think the actual design was fo= r >> even more, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels). >> >> I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolution in >> any software package. I've had one After Effects project that was about >> 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x 3K, and I >> really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects. However I don'= t >> think any compositing package - or even software package - would be much >> fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of pixels. >> >> Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing back >> to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to >> approach the project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. An= d >> that's what we would normally do - and often do when the delivery >> resolution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing exercis= e >> is to have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=85 >> >> So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work >> with successfully? If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs woul= d >> it be possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K? >> >> >> -Chris >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > --=20 ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ --001a11c29e50b0568804f0052cb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Considering it's a "wall" format.. the clien= t probably wants content that will span across and animate across all scree= ns continuously.. This would probably get pretty hard to design for if only= one 4k screen could be designed at a time.


On Wed, Jan 1= 5, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Sorry if this is a dumb ide= a, but what's stopping you from working on 20 individual 4K projects an= d then syncing them up after the fact? Seems to me breaking it into chunks = is the answer. And that way if one render fails or you need to tweak a sing= le video you're not stuck re-rendering the whole project.

Either that or buy 5 new mac pros for $10k a pop and have th= em each driving four displays, live.
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 a= t 4:47 AM, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com> wrote:
Hoping I can pick the brains of the group=85=

A marketing agency has approached us with a concept for a display of 4K TVs= . =A0Stripping away the creative it's basically a video wall made up of= 4K TVs. =A0The problem is that they want each TV to be displaying a full 4= K stream, so the pixels add up very quickly.

4K is 3840 x 2160.

If this hypothetical video wall was 5 TVs across by 4 TVs down, the overall= canvas would be 19,200 x 8640. =A0I think the actual design was for even m= ore, I think it was 8 across (30,720 pixels).

I really don't think it's feasible to work at such a high resolutio= n in any software package. =A0I've had one After Effects project that w= as about 10K x 1080, and probably the biggest I've done was about 7K x = 3K, and I really wouldn't want to go much bigger in After Effects. =A0H= owever I don't think any compositing package - or even software package= - would be much fun working with projects in then 10's of thousands of= pixels.

Apart from the playback issues (don't know how they plan on playing bac= k to 20 - 30 4K TVs, perhaps Watchout can do it?) I'm not sure how to a= pproach the project without doing it at a lower res and scaling up. =A0And = that's what we would normally do - and often do when the delivery resol= ution gets too high - but the whole point of this marketing exercise is to = have each TV playing back a full res 4K stream=85

So I am wondering what are the largest resolutions that people here work wi= th successfully? =A0If we had access to a few gigapixel photographs would i= t be possible to do a simple slideshow type thing at 20 or 30K?


-Chris
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