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Subject: Re: [AE] Thoughts on ultra-high resolution
From: Darby Edelen <dedelen@gmail.com>
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Cinema 4D has a Film Offset parameter on the camera to allow users to do
exactly what Teddy and Robert are describing.  All of the Cameras would
have the same position/orientation and the Film Offsets would be
increased/decreased in 100% increments along the X and Y.  This works
essentially like a shift lens.  I've suggested previously that AE should
have this feature as well for the reasons brought up in this thread as well
as better interoperability with C4D.  Looks like I never filed a request
though, time to fix that :)

Just changing the point of interests/orientation would still not give a
perspective correct effect although it would be closer.  A film offset
feature would be the only way (that I'm aware of) to do that.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk>wrote:

> You could place all the camera with the same position and just move the
> point of interest of the cameras to fill an area of the simulated larger
> FOV, with the array of cameras each with a more tele FOV. Think of it just
> shooting it as a virtual panorama, just with no overlap :-)... i think that
> could work, right?
>
> Robert
>
>
> 2014/1/15 Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>
>
>> oh yeah. Good point...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Walter Soyka <walter@keenlive.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> One example is to use a master comp for all the elements, and have 20x
>>>> cameras. When elements go across screens you just move into that comp with
>>>> linked properties and elements. That way you have a consistent screen
>>>> space, but the image is broken into separate comps.
>>>
>>>
>>> This will not yield a consistent screen space when reassembled -- this
>>> will yield a space with 20 individual vanishing points.
>>>
>>>  w.
>>>
>>> *Walter Soyka*  |  Keen Live
>>>  Email walter@keenlive.com
>>> Office 845.790.0813
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> _____________________________
>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist
>> teddygage dot com
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Cinema 4D has a Film Offset parameter on the camera t=
o allow users to do
 exactly what Teddy and Robert are describing.=A0 All of the Cameras would =
have the same=20
position/orientation and the Film Offsets would be increased/decreased=20
in 100% increments along the X and Y.=A0 This works essentially like a=20
shift lens.=A0 I&#39;ve suggested previously that AE should have this featu=
re=20
as well for the reasons brought up in this thread as well as better=20
interoperability with C4D.=A0 Looks like I never filed a request though, ti=
me to fix that :)<br><br></div>Just changing the point of interests/orienta=
tion would still not give a perspective correct effect although it would be=
 closer.=A0 A film offset feature would be the only way (that I&#39;m aware=
 of) to do that.<br>
<br>On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Robert Kjettrup <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:robert@stvmayday.dk" target=3D"_blank">robert@stvmayday.=
dk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:=
arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">You could place all the camera with the sa=
me position and just move the point of interest of the cameras to fill an a=
rea of the simulated larger FOV, with the array of cameras each with a more=
 tele FOV. Think of it just shooting it as a virtual panorama, just with no=
 overlap :-)... i think that could work, right?</span><span class=3D"HOEnZb=
"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>


</font></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=
=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"><div>Robert</div></font></span><div><div cla=
ss=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">2014/1/15 Teddy Gage <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teddygage@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">teddygage@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">oh yeah. Good point...</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Wed,=
 Jan 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Walter Soyka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:walter@keenlive.com" target=3D"_blank">walter@keenlive.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>




</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:11 PM=
, Teddy Gage <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teddygage@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">teddygage@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>







</div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">One example is to use a master co=
mp for all the elements, and have 20x cameras. When elements go across scre=
ens you just move into that comp with linked properties and elements. That =
way you have a consistent screen space, but the image is broken into separa=
te comps. </blockquote>







<div><br></div></div></div><div><div>This will not yield a consistent scree=
n space when reassembled -- this will yield a space with 20 individual vani=
shing points.</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div>

<div>

w.</div></font></span></div></div><div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><b>=
Walter Soyka</b> =A0| =A0Keen Live<br>

</div>
<font color=3D"#999999">Email=A0</font><a href=3D"mailto:walter@keenlive.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">walter@keenlive.com</a><br>


<font color=3D"#999999">Office </font><span><span title=3D"Call with Google=
 Voice"><a href=3D"tel:845.790.0813" value=3D"+18457900813" target=3D"_blan=
k">845.790.0813</a></span></span><br><br>
</div>
</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><br></div>-- <br><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div><font size=3D"1">_____________________________</font></div><=
div><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#6aa84f" face=3D"georgia, serif">VFX &amp; Mo=
tion Graphic Artist<br>




teddygage dot com</font></div></div>
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