Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.119] (HELO homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5352495 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:01:44 +0100 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCFB34806F; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:05:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h=references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=qQCtpEw72RGALfPfij7t9i+hQak=; b=lwitfpbVSTqxx8Lwso7KhyKStwoZ 7Gxe1v82FFrSGkwsPbR91NFpsEyO156f1OxddpUZThLGP0hLn6kw0lR9HTF8C5LW Sy/li4yTTUSmL9eL6muAV6gJtc5JhcV58Vxnob/anqAtJ1XZiuFzLVHKIZiV3mcz S+Nb4U62+iP/8MY= Received: from [192.168.0.19] (cpe-98-148-138-81.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.138.81]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3200234806C; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:05:43 -0800 (PST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5E5B7FE1-4F09-4422-937F-3944F571CF4E Message-Id: <6470273D-4D19-47E1-AD86-6F39D086785A@influxx.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) From: Adam Mercado Subject: Re: [AE] H264 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:05:41 -0800 To: After Effects Mail List --Apple-Mail-5E5B7FE1-4F09-4422-937F-3944F571CF4E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's good to know teddy. I had a situation similar a couple of weeks ago t= rying to convert an mkv from the client into something useful. Spent a simil= ar amount of time trying to find a solution. Hacked a workaround but this wo= uld have been useful.=20 Cheers Sent from the ubiquitous Apple communication device I like to call Boris. He= nce the brevity and poor spelling.=20 On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Sort of off-topic: the other day I needed to convert an AVC/h264 file in a= n .avi wrapper that was output from an old screen capture software for a ser= ies of tutorials. It needed to be editable, and easily iDevice compatible. I= can tell you I tried every F-ing thing I could think of involving AVIsynth,= FFmpeg, VLC, QT 7 Pro, VirtualDub/Mod, FCP, Premiere Pro and nothing would c= onvert it. It only played through VLC.=20 >=20 > We are talking 10 hour-long .avis, at 5 GB each. Then I found this AiSeeSo= ft Total Video Converter software, sucked it up and paid $40 and it's the be= st switchblade conversion tool I have ever used. It will ingest anything and= batch output any format, with about 90 presets of devices and codecs. I thi= nk it even does Prores on PC, it definitely will output 10 bit DNxHD with al= pha support, and it uses CUDA / OpenCL. I converted 2 hours of AVC into .mp4= in about 20 minutes at a 4:1 compression. For example it will even demux .= mkv matroska files. Definitely worth a look if anyone runs into these issues= . >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan wrote: >> Great solution, Teddy. >>=20 >> I gotta admit it can be confusing sometimes, even for someone like myself= who entertains the idea that I know a fair amount about this stuff. A long t= ime ago I had a conversation with a Panasonic engineer who was talking about= 720 and thinking, oh yeah, I do 720, meaning, 720 X 540 (or 486). Of course= he was talking about 1280 X 720 but HD had barely scratched the outer reach= es of my consciousness back then. This was in the 90s sometime. >>=20 >>=20 >> Jonathan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>=20 >>> I had a client ask for a "quicktime, an .mp4, and an .h264" >>>=20 >>> So I relabled the same file with three different extensions >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan wrote: >>>> They seem to think they can get an uncompressed file from H264, yes. >>>>=20 >>>> On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Tim Thiessen wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> So they want an uncompressed compressed file? >>>>>=20 >>>>> iPhone >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jonathan wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> I'm searching for a clarity . . . >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> A client is asking for "H264 with the highest settings, 8bit uncompre= ssed." H264 is, by definition compressed, correct? And though there are in t= heory, versions of H264 that are 10 bit, the garden variety H264 (created in= , for example, Quicktime) is 8 bit. So the only part of this request that m= akes sense is "highest settings," right? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Any insights greatly appreciated. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> JONATHAN PENZNER >>>>>> VIDEO EDITING =E2=80=A2 MOTION GRAPHICS =E2=80=A2 DESIGN >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >>>>>> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> sundancerealtime@me.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com --Apple-Mail-5E5B7FE1-4F09-4422-937F-3944F571CF4E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's good to know teddy. I had a sit= uation similar a couple of weeks ago trying to convert an mkv from the clien= t into something useful. Spent a similar amount of time trying to find a sol= ution. Hacked a workaround but this would have been useful. 
=
Cheers

Sent from the ubiquitous Apple communication de= vice I like to call Boris. Hence the brevity and poor spelling. 
<= div>
On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

Sort of off-topic: the other day I needed= to convert an AVC/h264 file in an .avi wrapper that was output from an old s= creen capture software for a series of tutorials. It needed to be editable, a= nd easily iDevice compatible. I can tell you I tried every F-ing thing I cou= ld think of involving AVIsynth, FFmpeg, VLC, QT 7 Pro, VirtualDub/Mod, FCP, P= remiere Pro and nothing would convert it. It only played through VLC. <= div>
We are talking 10 hour-long .avis, at 5 GB each. Then I found= this AiSeeSoft Total Video Converter software, sucked it up and paid $40 an= d it's the best switchblade conversion tool I have ever used. It will ingest= anything and batch output any format, with about 90 presets of devices and c= odecs. I think it even does Prores on PC, it definitely will output 10 bit D= NxHD with alpha support, and it uses CUDA / OpenCL. I converted 2 hours of A= VC into .mp4 in about 20 minutes at a 4:1 compression.  For exampl= e it will even demux .mkv matroska files. Definitely worth a look if an= yone runs into these issues.


On Sun, J= an 19, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan <sureal@charter.net> wrote:<= br>
Great= solution, Teddy.

I gotta admit it can be confusing= sometimes, even for someone like myself who entertains the idea that I know= a fair amount about this stuff. A long time ago I had a conversation with a= Panasonic engineer who was talking about 720 and thinking, oh yeah, I do 72= 0, meaning, 720 X 540 (or 486). Of course he was talking about 1280 X 720 bu= t HD had barely scratched the outer reaches of my consciousness back then. T= his was in the 90s sometime.


Jonathan



On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:
I had a c= lient ask for a "quicktime, an .mp4, and an .h264"

So I r= elabled the same file with three different extensions


On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan <sureal@charter.net> wrote:
=
They seem to thin= k they can get an uncompressed file from H264, yes.
On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Tim Thiessen wrot= e:

So they want an uncompressed compre= ssed file?

iPhone

On Jan= 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jonathan <sureal@charter.net> wrote:

I'm se= arching for a clarity . . .

A client is asking for "H264= with the highest settings, 8bit uncompressed." H264 is, by definition compr= essed, correct? And though there are in theory, versions of H264 that are 10= bit, the garden variety H264 (created in, for example, Quicktime) is 8 bit.=  So the only part of this request that makes sense is "highest setting= s," right?

Any insights greatly appreciated.

Jonathan


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