Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com ([209.85.128.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5353206 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:22:55 +0100 Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id oz11so1816881veb.7 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:26:55 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+NCeBd/brcchsL+ezXEGGPaslp212JNyaMuHM4ybROM=; b=cJurzopDQeCvN7Riinqwg64ZKEHHYvhswYv5JFLlqQuz+AHhkkX/Fiwb9CgEBPfI65 TMu0SBIJIulhDppUtqzKh/QKXvHYd5J8eU4TNc6r1ed44okk8YKBp3sc/nKsw3P0fBL3 zlpHS2kPr4XPN/1u24rcinaL2OkxrGKykButy90Dry9hxLMbm3YJpvh/ArIPBTU1Umta Wh8e9NaEX6BKa4QP10+PoZwv0V08pYTiK3XjZxyLUhFYXbn8whJ4yOMeVEfhS8mGIB6F Ui0xlMYtZEiTcZd/tDxUl/n1WeuBCvnIKJRhagnY4DhNia5SJLY2MJsonIWA8jdZRNe7 by1A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKaDTFBVMpqByXqZv5skM9gRmTXoAIVkOkmRX98aO51ZyYx4LmOBWA3+gBRSOlmGX/mx0F X-Received: by 10.58.229.164 with SMTP id sr4mr10042339vec.18.1390238815537; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:26:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.68.138 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:26:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:26:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Mocha question: planar surface coordinates values? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6bbf2c0e6cb04f06a3231 --047d7bd6bbf2c0e6cb04f06a3231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ross thanks for he answer. Yes i could just have dublicated the first track, and it would keep the Surface position. But i had already tracked the other layers and they were already perfect, so just wanted a way to move the surface to the other tracking layers with the same coordinates. I did it manually by zoming in and lining the surface edge up to the viewer edge, switching between the layers and dragging the surface edge of that layer to the same location. Didn't take long, but a bit surprised that there wasnt a more exact way to do it. :-) Then consider this a feature request from me for the next version, exposing surface coordinates values in the UI ;-) Robert 2014/1/20 Ross Shain > Hi Robert, > The public mocha forums found at Imagineer are still down (will be > restored in the future). > > mocha support team can still be contacted direct by using the support > contact form: > http://www.imagineersystems.com/contact_form > > If I am understanding your question, you should be able to duplicate your > mocha layer, leave the surface in the position that you want, than simply > re-track. (duplicate layer icon underneath layer controls OR CNTRL D). > > As far as I know, the surface coordinates is not something currently > exposed numerically to the user. If you saved the AE corner pin tracking > export format and viewed the file, you would find the corner coordinates - > but there is nowhere within mocha to enter them. For version 4 of mocha we > are working on adding Python support and scripting, so users will be able > to do more with the data and exports. > > Hope this helps. > -Ross > > > On 20 January 2014 11:51, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I have a small question about Mocha that i cant figure out reading the >> help files, and the Mocha Forum seems to be down (for good?) and thought >> the best place to ask a semi AE related question was on this list. >> >> Is there any way to find the coordinates of the surface of one layer and >> move/copy them over exact to another tracked layer? >> >> Normally i just use the Align Surface command in tracks like this, but in >> this case i cant since in some frames the perspective is turned so much >> that a full frame aligned surface wont transfer over to AE correct, just >> resetting the cornerpin values for those frames. But if i restrict he >> Surface to a smaller area around the tracked area it comes over correct, >> now i just need to use the exact same values for the surface on some other >> tracking layers, but i cant find any place in Mocha where they are shown. >> Not even the Dope Sheet or Curve Editor. >> Can this be true? >> >> or do i just need to manually try to match up the surface for each >> tracking layer? >> >> - Robert >> > > > > -- > Ross Shain > Chief Marketing Officer > Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual > effects tools. > > www.imagineersystems.com > Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: > rosss@imagineersystems.com > > Find us online: > Facebook | Twitter| > YouTube | Vimeo > --047d7bd6bbf2c0e6cb04f06a3231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ross

thanks for he answer.=A0
<= div>Yes i could just have dublicated the first track, and it would keep the= Surface position. But i had already tracked the other layers and they were= already perfect, so just wanted a way to move the surface to the other tra= cking layers with the same coordinates.

I did it manually by zoming in and lining the surface e= dge up to the viewer edge, switching between the layers and dragging the su= rface edge of that layer to the same location. Didn't take long, but a = bit surprised that there wasnt a more exact way to do it. :-)

Then consider this a feature request from me for the ne= xt version, exposing surface coordinates values in the UI ;-)
Robert



2014/1/20 Ross Shain <<= a href=3D"mailto:rosss@imagineersystems.com" target=3D"_blank">rosss@imagin= eersystems.com>
Hi Robert,
The public mocha forums found at Imagineer = are still down (will be restored in the future).=A0

mocha support team can still be contacted direct by using the support con= tact form:=A0

If I am understanding your question, you should be able to duplicat= e your mocha layer, leave the surface in the position that you want, than s= imply re-track. (duplicate layer icon underneath layer controls OR CNTRL D)= .

As far as I know, the surface coordinates is not someth= ing currently exposed numerically to the user. If you saved the AE corner p= in tracking export format and viewed the file, you would find the corner co= ordinates - but there is nowhere within mocha to enter them. =A0For version= 4 of mocha we are working on adding Python support and scripting, so users= will be able to do more with the data and exports.=A0

Hope this helps.=A0
-Ross


On 20 January 2014 11:51, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk&g= t; wrote:
Hi

I have a small question about Mocha that i cant figure = out reading the help files, and the Mocha Forum seems to be down (for good?= ) and thought the best place to ask a semi AE related question was on this = list.

Is there any way to find the coordinates of the surface= of one layer and move/copy them over exact to another tracked layer?
=

Normally i just use the Align Surface command in tracks= like this, but in this case i cant since in some frames the perspective is= turned so much that a full frame aligned surface wont transfer over to AE = correct, just resetting the cornerpin values for those frames. But if i res= trict he Surface to a smaller area around the tracked area it comes over co= rrect, now i just need to use the exact same values for the surface on some= other tracking layers, but i cant find any place in Mocha where they are s= hown. Not even the Dope Sheet or Curve Editor.=A0
Can this be true?

or do i just need to manual= ly try to match up the surface for each tracking layer?

- Robert



--
Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Systems - develop= ers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.

www.imagi= neersystems.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 = | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com

Find us online:
Facebook | Twitter | YouTube=A0| Vimeo

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